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David, it may be cost prohibitive getting around the O.E.M. issue. That
appears to have been the stumbling block in the past, just look at what
the owners of Lake amphibs just went through. I don't know if they ever
did get approval to go around the O.E.M. and their repairs were really
expensive. I wish you luck,Pete 

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From: Hartmut [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:11 PM 
To: David Johnson 
Cc: Ercoupe Tech List 
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-TECH] RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] C-section & corrosion 


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David. 
Pro-active engagement seems to be a good thing. Especially when it comes
to our old birds, considering 
the fact that Univair doubles all prices for parts every 5 years or so. 

The corrosion within the center section might not be limited to the main
spar though. It usually 
affects only the spar caps from what I have seen so far. 
These spar caps are priced ridiculously. 
For the center section : 
120 -13027 ercoupe upper capstrip $2,032.29 
120 -13028 ercoupe lower capstrip $2,739.70 
120 -13128 ercoupe beam lower capstrip $2,739.70 

If someone could find a suitable replacement here, repairs might get
economical. 
They are currently not, because  if you really get the main spar out and
compare the price for the 
strips with the 
the cost of complete spars then you'll realize that repairs are not sense
making financially, if you 
are forced to use premium prized Univair parts. 
120 -13002 ercoupe front center beam $4,626.63 
120 -13102 ercoupe center section beam $5,602.30 

I would after finding a provider for such extrusions work together with
Skyport to 
1. push a STC through and 
2. get them to order in a bigger amount to keep the costs small. 

Hartmut N3330H 



David Johnson wrote: 

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> 
> With all the talk about corrosion, especially in the carry-through spar 
> section, does anyone think that there might be enough interest in
developing 
> an STC to replace the spar? If we are to continue to keep these old
birds 
> airworthy, we need to take a pro-active approach. I'm sure that there
would 
> be some development cost, structural load analysis and such. At work, we

> have an outside DER review all of our structural modifications. Is it
worth 
> starting a dialog with him? Feed back, anybody? 
> 
> Coupers. 
> I sent this last night to the coupers-tech list. 
> I think it is interesting for every one. So here my  posting again. 
> 
> Hartmut 
> 
> -------- Original Message -------- 
> From: Hartmut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Subject: C-section & corrosion. 
> To: Coupers Tech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
> Coupers. 
> I finally opened up the center section to remove the corrosion we found 
> today. 
> To avoid the data congestion, I prepared a little page with six images 
> to look at . 
> Check it out and learn from the tragedies of others. grin 
> 
> http://home.pacbell.net/hbeil/ercoupe/corrosion.htm 
> 
> Hartmut 
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