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I must be in the middle of some sort of metamorphosis!  I suddenly find my
self in agreement with Greg!

I was priveledeged, prior to Desert Storm, to prang the Earth with great
impact in an Ercoupe, and in so doing, attempted to rearrange the
instrument
panel configuration with the captive element of my limited brain.  This
probably explains a lot of things over the last few years.

Any way,  Dave Smoler is one of the most thorough individuals I have ever
met.  When he gets a bone in his teeth he follows through to the very end
with great dispatch.  During his years as an Ercouper Dave came up with
many
discoveries to his credit, among them, a neat flush mounting system for
the
wing inspection covers.

Greg and Dave are correct,  the skin construction, while strong enough to
keep the tail from wrenching off in flight, is insufficient to keep a 200
pounder, from continuing his direction of travel upon impact.  Coupes are
notorious for ending up on their back, because the nose gear and engine
mount collapse.  this action will absorb a great deal of the forward
energy
of the impact, but it won't keep your dome out of the dash.

Draw a straight line from the top of the cowl to the tips of the rudders,
and another shuddering fact will come into view.  The cockpit is above the
line, which means, that for all practical purposes, the pilots head will
be
above the crush line!  The Ercoupes have more structural material above
this
line than the Alons do, so I hope I never duplicate my previous
performance!

Some thoughts to ponder!

Wayne Woollard N6596Q
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From: "Greg Bullough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Shoulder Harness


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> To what Lynn is saying, I'll add this:
>
> There is little point in having an installation that depends upon
> the shear strength of the fuselage skin, or the pull strength of a
> single light bulkhead to absorb the impact of a crash. We've
> seen these 'simple' installations of which the FAA will no longer
> approve (much of the consternation of some).
>
> This is one of the rare cases where the FAA is probably correct;
> many of these installations will do little more than slow you down
> on your way to impacting the glareshield with your frontal lobes.
> Better than nothing, but not enough.
>
> Similarly useless are attempts to secure the harnesses to the seat-back
> tube: in the event of a hard hit, this is going to come away.
>
> You want something that's not going to go *pop* when the plane
> goes *thunk*. The installation which Lynn mentions, developed
> in California, meets that requirement and goes aft through
> two bulkheads, relatively deep into the fuselage cone.
>
> Greg
>
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> At 07:41 PM 3/20/2003 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> >
> >Hi Nick; I have put shoulder harness in a couple of Ercoupes, and
gotten
> >approval to do another one.
>
>
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