Folks, I am absolutely amazed that a thread that started with
"I said it's nuts for a coupe owner to have to sell his D-model
and buy a C-model to get in the light sport. He agreed and said that
once it got though that he would make my suggestion. So there still may
be some hope. But I think that it would take a very big push from a
big group of people to get it done."
to evolve into bashing the EOC for not doing more to get the FAA to
allow D's to be brought back to C's, and then bashing the EOC in
general. I've kept silent so far on this, but maybe I need to speak
up. I think we know that Al has an ax to grind in almost all of his
comments, especially the ones that have to do with the EOC. Frankly,
I'm sick of these comments. I've said for years, there are two kinds of
people, talkers and doers. So Al was a Director for a few years and put
on a fly-in. Big deal. I've been a Wing Leader for many years,
Regional Director for many years, put on the 1993 Nationals, led the
flight of Ercoupes into Oshkosh for 15 years, coordinated the banquet,
maintenance forum and Type Club Table at Oshkosh for many years, and am
now coordinating the banquet, maintenance forum and Type Club Table at
Sun N Fun, plus I'm putting on the Nationals at Wausau this summer. If
all this talk and energy for the past few days had been spent on
something constructive, like working with EAA to get the FAA to modify
the Sport rules, we probably would be at least half way there already.
Actually, though, we have accomplished nothing. I'm also amazed that
some of you have the time to sit at your computers all day long and
compose emails. Excuse me, I have a Waco CG-4A to restore, and I only
get about 30 minutes a day to look at emails. I'm off to my hangar. I
also support the EOC and I keep working to make it better.
Syd
Andy Anderson wrote:
I agree with Lee.
If you are going to "talk the talk", you should be willing to "walk
the walk".
There are a few - very few- people on this list that seem to only be
interested in EOC bashing.
They say they want to "improve" the club, but are unwilling to work
with its leadership.
AJ DeMarzo has publicly stated that he "will not work with either Skip
or Carolyn for love or money" and that is his prerogative,
By the same token, I will publicly state that I will not work with AJ
DeMarzo in his quest to - in my opinion - harm EOC.
I know that he says that is not his intent but if it were not true, I
believe, he should be willing to work within the club.
He is making a statement which proves to me that he does not have the
best interests of EOC as a motive.
Supporters of EOC will be willing to provide properly directed
suggestions for improvement.
Bashing EOC on this list is not the way to cause improvements.
Sending your ideas or suggestions to your region director or directly
to Skip or Carolyn is proper.
.
I support EOC and its leadership.
I would like to see this topic flooded with similar one line comments
from EOC members who agree.
Only then will the few know how the majority feel. By remaining silent
you are helping fuel the flames.
Andy Anderson
Dues paid EOC Member &
Arkansas Wing Leader
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AJ DeMarzo
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 10:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ercoupe-flyin] EOC
Hi Lee;
Any "negative" comments from this author are to be taken as
constructive criticism not personal attacks, of which I'm very capable
of launching. I'd like to see things improve. And NO, at this time I
will not work with either Skip and Carolyn for love or money, nor will
I discourage anyone from performing this service. It's like owning a
polished airplane. Everyone needs to do it - - - - once!
I know my statements make no sense but you have to look at them hard!
(Go over the numbers a bit more.)
Al DeMarzo
Visit the Ercoupe Swap Page - Free and Easy
http://www.ercoupeowners.com/swap/swapbook.htm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ;
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 9:15 PM
Subject: [ercoupe-flyin] EOC
As I said before, if they have an input which in their opinion will be
of interest, it is reasonable that it will be posted. Perhaps they
have posted an input and received a caustic critical unwarranted
response. That has occurred in the past and some are turned off by
such responses and don't post again. That is only a supposition of
course.
There seems to be quite a bit of negative comments relative to the EOC
operation and some positive suggestions to improve it. Will those
criticizing the current operation step up and volunteer their time to
coordinate the positive suggestions through Skip and Carolyn and then
work with them to implement them?
Wayne, I offer a constructive suggestion, when you post someone's
comment, post all of it and not just part.
Lee
