Herb,

You have some very good points. But I find it short-sighted to 
simply view this as comparing two similar products. Neither Airbus 
nor Northrup-Gruman has ever built tanker.

Frank Nelson

--- In [email protected], Herb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Having worked for Boeing/McDonnell Douglas for many years and over 
10,000 hours flying Boeing/McDonnell Douglas aircraft (KC-135 and KC-
10), I can tell you that Boeing/McDonnell Douglas has always gone 
into government contract bids with a very arrogant attitude.  They 
have always had the attitude "we" are the best and if you want us 
you are going to pay.  Having worked Boeing contract bids I also 
know that Boeing will not submit a bid unless they can make a 
minimum of 30% profit, it's not worth their time to bid anything 
less.  
> 
> In case most you don't know, Boeing was awarded this contract a 
couple of years ago.  It consisted of the USAF "Leasing" Boeing 767s 
for tankers.  Since the airplanes were leased Boeing made them put 
into the lease contract that all modifications and maintenance must 
be done by Boeing.  Those airplanes were going to cost the Air Force 
approx. 3 times the cost of buying them outright.  Anyway a couple 
of Senators threw up the "Stop" flag and investigated the procurment 
deal (Senator McCain was leading the charge).  When the dust settled 
3 Pentagon procurment personnel were put in jail, along with a lady 
from Boeing that recently quit the government procurment office and 
went to work for Boeing (sound fishy?), the president/CEO for Boeing 
(Paul Condit) resigned along with a few other top Boeing exectives.  
> 
> The majority of Boeing's aircraft manufacturing is subcontracted 
to foreign companies and so is a lot of the assembly.  It's in the 
new contract that all the Airbus aircraft for this contract will be 
assembled in Mobile, AL.
> 
> Don't get me wrong I like Boeing aircraft, they saved my butt a 
few times but I hope this will cause them to wakeup and realize they 
aren't the only manufactor with a good product.
> 
> Herb
> 
> 
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