Please read the following;

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2007-05-08-natural-gas-usat_N.htm

We need both a short and long term fix. 60 years is a pretty good short term 
fix and will give us the time to develop, explore and build for the long term.
If only 50% of our vehicles used natural gas or electricity, we would basically 
be self sufficient.
Converting existing cars to CNG could be done for less than the last incentive 
check the gov. sent out, if done in mass and wisely.

Here's some interesting trivia - during World War Two the power stations in 
Naples were trashed.  The core of engineers brought in some captured Italian 
submarines and powered the city.  Amazing what can be done when humans get 
creative.  I wonder how many nuclear ships are sitting in mothballs?

We don't need to think out of the box, we need to think as if the box never 
existed!



 


 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 6:43 am
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I guess it's all about the money that needs to be 
spent to make clean energy.  Kinda like delaying a repair on your Coupe 
because you don't want to throw down the bucks for it as long as it's still 
flying.


 


 



  
----- Original Message ----- 

  
From: 
  Carl 
  Prather 

  
To: er
[email protected] ; [email protected] 

  
Cc: [email protected] 
  

  
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:01 
  AM

  
Subject: [ercoupe-flyin] Nuclear 
  power

  



  

  
I never post but I have to comment on Nuclear energy as potential source of 
  energy.  We cannot make nor destroy matter so matter whether nuclear 
  power plants are made or not doesn't change what material exists, just where 
  it's located.  One fellow, in the 1800's, tried to estimate to age of the 
  Earth as something like 40,000 years of age.  The problem with his 
  calculations is that he did not take into account all of the uranium on the 
  planet, which changed the Earth's age, based on cooling, up to only 4.5 
  billion years.  That is, and was, a lot uranium.
  




  
There's a bombastic radio talk show host in the San Francisco area named 
  Bill Wattenberg, Dr. Bill as he is sometimes called.  He is a nuclear 
  physicist who has worked UC Berkeley and Lawrence Livermore Labs.  I 
  always wanted to know to what extent spent nuclear rods present a radiation 
  danger to humans and the environment.  He says that after few weeks of 
  cooling down, the cooling rods sat in free air will emit as much 
  radiation and the 
  surrounding area from a distance of 50' or greater.  In each of these 
  rods, there is a thimble-sized amount of nuclear material that has 
a half live 
  of several 100,000's of years.  These rods can be processed further and 
  even this really long-lived stuff can be re-used.  We have hundreds or 
  years of OPEC-free energy setting in the ground.

  



  
As for disposal, he says that storage casks, many times the size needed 
  to contain radiation can be built without worry of cask degradation.  Or, 
  the nuclear material can simply put back in mines which they came. 
   Another plan was to disperse the stuff on the ocean floor in amounts 
  that it becomes environmentally inconsequential.  How about that!

  



  
But Wattenberg's biggest criticism of nuclear foes is that coal fired 
  plants emit 15,000 tons of radioactive material into U.S. every year and that 
  nothing is being done or said about those "radiation leaks".  

  



  
He believes that we should double or triple our nuclear generating 
  capacity, shut down most of the "dirty" coal-fired plants and the clean 
  burning natural gas plants.  Then we use the excess natural gas to power 
  our cars.  Now, we quit using polluting the coal plants and cars, using 
  an energy supply that will last 200-300 years life from Canada and from 
  domestic sources.   And then there's carbon foot print thing and global 
  warming.

  



  
He rails on environmental groups as "wackos" but he also spearheaded 
  legislation to prevent logging n
ear rivers because of proven environmental 
  concerns.

  



  
Solar energy has always appealed to me because of it's apparent 
  simplicity and the fact we have roof tops everywhere.  Wattenberg says 
  these alternate forms of energy are pipe dreams because they cost too much 
and 
  we could blanket the countryside with solars panels or wind turbines and will 
  have, at best, a spotty, underwhelming supply of energy.  He, 
  interestingly, has solar panels installed at his house!  

  



  
May it's hubris, but if Dr. Bill is right then we are laboring under a 
  false sense of safety with respect to the environment when it comes to 
nuclear 
  energy.  

  
Obama's choice of Nobel laureate Steve Chu, a nuclear physicist for 
  energy secretary may prove interesting as Chu is also interested in energy 
  efficiency and non-food boi fuels.  Obama says he intends to put science 
  ahead of ideology.  Time will tell. 

  



  



  



  
Carl Prather 


  



  




  


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