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-----Original Message-----
From: William R. Bayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 9:02 PM
To: Ed Burkhead
Subject: WRB Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Class 3 med exam.


Begin forwarded message:

Sorry guys, accidentally transmitted this FLYIN message to the TECH
list.  I now relay it to FLYIN, as some only sign up for it (or TECH)
individually.  WRB

> RLYFLYIN (WRB via Ed Burkhead's computer-I can't post directly)
> Please send responses directly to the list or to me, Bill Bayne @
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> Hi Doc (WRB speaking),
>
> I'm impressed!  Even understanding the "starting point"  you've got
the
> "fire".
>
> Have at it, and know you're not alone.  Count me as another
> enthusiastic (if pessimistic) anarchist.
> Let me know any way I can help.  (maybe I should sign this Sancho?)
>
> Another potentially HUGE and current threat  is the latest FAA NRPM
> (AOPA response link) :
>
>
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2005/050413aircraft_letter.pdf
>
> The problem (and the culprit) is the same, and I'm sure the EAA must
> also respond to this.
>
> Maybe the "key" to long term "success" is to rip the mask off the
> "faceless" bureaucrat responsible for this proposal. Go after him/her,
> first to determine the name, and then individually.  Establish an
> example that we, the people DO have a right to know who does what to
> us, and that we CAN "reach out and touch someone" in the FAA that does
> things like this.  Bring enough fire on this person or committee and
> this rogue agency may have to back down.  A worthwhile lesson should
> become apparent at some point down the line.
>
> So, commander - we await your orders!
>
> Regards,
>
> WRB
>
> --
>
> On Apr 17, 2005, at 6:57 PM, Dr. R. B. wrote:
>
>>>> There has to be a number?   If you accept that statement, then by
> the
>>>> rules of logic you MUST ALSO accept the following statement:  A
>>>> committee sitting in a room knows more about a pilot's physical
>>>> ability to fly an airplane than the doctor examining him.  Or her.
>>>
>>> (WRB speaking)  And the FAA would ask "What's your point?"  They use
>>> such logic in much that they do, and we meekly accept it.
>>>>
>> ***************** [RB] My point is precisely that:  we meekly accept
>> it.  We shouldn't.
>>
>>> Unfortunately, general aviation as we know (knew?) it IS dead.It is
>>> in an ever-increasing state of putrescence.  In twenty years, maybe
>>> sooner, we will be where Europe is today (more's the pity).  We
>>> are the LAST American "general aviation" generation.
>>
>> ********************  [RB] I can't disagree with your facts.  I
merely
>> continue to hope.  To my mind, the overwhelming importance of EAA's
>> Sport Pilot initiative is not that it gets more pilots into more
>> planes, but that the FAA actually listened and acted!  This gives me
>> GREAT hope.
>>
>>>> We Baby Boomers comprise a 40 million person spike in American
>>>> generational demographics.  America will never produce another
>>>> generation as large as ours.  Many of us are now entering
retirement
>>>> age and ALL OF US ARE OVER 40!  Now think about that for a moment,
>>>> and
>>>> think about the POWER we have.
>>>
>>> Could have.  We have been so conditioned that we are totally at the
>>> mercy of whatever these unelected and effectively unaccountable
>>> tyrants
>>> dream up we've already lost effective access to many of the freedoms
>>> postwar pilots into the seventies enjoyed.  Specifically the
> "presumed
>>> guilty" mind set of the FAA and the NTSB, and our meaningful access
> to
>>> previously approved STCs and 337s.  Over the years, the FAA has
>>> learned
>>> pilots are easily intimidated and utterly toothless over time in
>>> defending their "rights"!
>>
>> ***************** [RB] Can't disagree with THAT, either.
>> However...perhaps we can get ourselves together.  Perhaps the
unifying
>> factor is simply that we're too old, too wrinkled, too crusty, and
too
>> bad-tempered to care anymore.  The actual catalyst doesn't matter.
We
>> have to make our voice known.  "Sport Pilot" is a start, a hell of a
>> good start.  Let's keep it rolling!
>> Let's roll it right along to the age thing and get ourselves in the
>> decision stream before it's too late and we're all either sitting
>> watching the Military Channel or sneaking upstairs in our old ships
>> waiting to get caught.
>>
>> We have to say to the FAA:  "Either listen attentively to the
citizens
>> who pay your upkeep, and the peole for whom you are in business in
the
>> first place, or we're going to pongalo en sus culos." For those of
you
>> who are single-language, find a friend who doesn't mind translating
>> gutter-Spanish.  Then we have to make good on that promise.
>>  The FAA MUST address this...
>>>
>>> Sorry Doc, they don't.  It's not in their mind-set.  They regularly
>>> show regulatory contempt for those they purportedly serve!
>>
>> Absolutely!  That's the hallmark of a bureaucrat, an identifying
>> feature of the breed.  The chief difference
>> between a bureaucrat and a politician is insulation.  Both despise
the
>> electorate, but politicians must at
>> least seem attentive; bureaucrats need not even seem to listen.
>>>
>>>> ...we MUST make sure they do it in an inclusionary way, not in the
>>>> exclusionary way that their regulations are now written.
>>>
>>> Emphasis on the WE!  Now, what proactive tools do we have?
>>
>> *******************  [RB] Well, where did the whole Sport Pilot thing
>> come from?  SOMEBODY sure did SOMETHING right and whatever they did
>> got FAA's attention.  What should we do?  Me, I'd start with EAA and
>> Senator John Glenn.
>>
>> Dr. R. Beeman
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