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Jerry,

I too am also an enthusiastic supporter of SP. In fact, when my medical runs out in May, I shall join those ranks completely. However, I am also an enthusiastic supporter of PPL, Comm, Inst, or whatever a person may wish to achieve. Unfortunately, in Charlie's case, with the medical issue, SP is fortunately here for him. However, whether it's another 15 - 20 hrs (or 10 - 15 hrs.), I just want an applicant to know how close he/she is to many more flying privilages.. and the extra hours stuff is fun stuff (in my opinion). I'm thinking many will get additional training and endorsements sometime after becoming SP certified to fly into towered airports, fly different types of aircraft, etc. With the PPL, one checkride pretty much does it all. Also, at the moment around here, and very unfortunately, I don't know of a LSA aircraft available for rent, other than one Champ many miles away. And because of insurance issues in renting it, the local C150 at $65 an hr. is $5 an hr. cheaper that the Champ would be. Again, certainly not trying to discourage anyone from only being a SP, but do certainly want to let them know all the options. I'm just afraid that the "you too can be a licensed pilot in just 20 hours" initial message reference SP is as unrealistic as the 35 (or 40) hr. minimum requirement for PPL. Just my opinion...which has made this aviation stuff so much fun for the past 47 years. I think we've been blessed that SP and Viagra (oh, and that once a day heart burn medician) came along just in time for many of us....well...I mean for the rest of you older guys...that is. Rog



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Roger -

I humbly disagree with this advice.  Let's be PROPONENTS of sport pilot.

For a PPL, you need the following, all of which AREN'T needed for sport
pilot:

1.  Towered airport work not needed;

2.  Far less x-c needed for SP;

3.  No emergency instrument work needed;

4.  No local night, or dual night x-c.

All tolled, this is maybe 15 - 20 hours of dual instruction saved. And, you need an expensive rental airplane for the instrument work, and probably for
the night work as well.

Jerry E.

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Charlie,

Something you might want to consider, if you don't mind getting an initial
class III physical, is going ahead and getting a private license. I know a
SP examiner and he says that the requirement, as far as flying skills go,
aren't much different. I don't thin the additional training time should be much more than about 10- 15 hours. For a PPL, planes and examiners are very
available.  And once you have a PPL, you're good to go anytime you might
want to jump in a C172 or whatever. After that, if you're only going to fly LSA, then just let the medical expire....but the PPL will always be there if
you wish.  roger
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I recently started my Sport Pilot Training at a Flying Club in McKinney,
TX.  I got some time in a Cessna 152 with the hope of ending up in an
Ercoupe 415c that would allow me to do my checkride (it is LSA
compliant).  Unfortunately, some modifications to that plane made it
unusable for my 260 lb. wt./6'2" frame.  Both me and the instructor
couldn't fit due mostly to weight concerns.

Anyway, I am looking for an instructor somewhere here in North Texas
who has access to an LSA compliant plane that I can train
in---preferable as close to Denton, TX as I can find.

Any help from anyone out there would be sincerely appreciated.

Charlie Fox
N778CF
Student Pilot/Sport Pilot trainee


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University of North Texas
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