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Dave has it right...Percy has it right...how does the Boston FSDO know
it was operated as a D model? The FAA issued Airworthiness Certificate
says it is a C model, then it is a C model. Operate it as a C model. No
Problem. Case Closed!
Pete
N3552H (C model)
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Hey, all!
LEGAL ANALYSIS:
The local FAA office position in this sounds inconsistent if not a bit
abusive. If you had flown your bird at D model weights, you would
have been violating regulations. It is not a D model, no matter what
alterations you have done, until the paper work is complete.
So now, even tho you could NOT legally fly it at 1400 lbs, they say
they consider it a D, anyway. They say it cannot “revert” to a C mode
Well, it does not need to revert. It IS already a C model. Period.
They cannot have it both ways.
The local FAA office position appears to be, to coin a legal phrase,,
“horse s**t.”
I suggest that you keep it a C registration and explain their
untenable position to them….although, perhaps, using more circumspect
terminology.
Anybody see any holes in my logic? I am, as always, open to opposing
positions. In all seriousness,I think this is a rather important
distinction.
Grins,
Dave Winters
N2797H
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Hi Percy,
Here is a brief history of my coupe. The D model conversion was done
in 1974. A 337 was completed and stated that the stainless steel plate
over the fuel tank was installed per ERCO drawing #xyz and the gross
weight adjusted to 1400lbs. The data plate was restamped in accordance
with the type certificate data sheet and a revised weight and balance
sheet was produced. The FAA never reissued and amended airworthiness
certificate indicating that the aircraft was now a D model. Some time
after that the original log books were destroyed and the airplane sat
for a few years. When the next owner restored the airplane he
reconstructed the log books and restored the coupe as a D
model,however the airworthiness certificate still showed it as a
C. I then bought the airplane and figured this all out after the fact.
I have spoken with the FAA FSDO office in Boston and they feel as
though it was operated as a D and if I choose to revert to a C, I
would be excluded from the LSA category. The FSDO office wants me to
submit a new 337 indicating that the work that should have been noted
in the missing log books was completed and that the plane is in
compliance with the Type Certificate Data Sheet. I thought
someone might have a copy of one I could look and get an idea of what
an approved one looks like.
Thanks for you input,
~Jeff Fallon
N789JJ
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Are you sure you want to complete the conversion, Jeff?
Keeping the plane a C or CD allows it to be used as a Light Sport
Aircraft, flown with only a driver's license for a medical. The
prices of those planes has skyrocketed lately, per the last EOC
meeting.
Perhaps if I knew a bit more about what's going on. Has an O-200
engine been installed? Has the elevator up-travel been changed? Do
you need the 1400 pounds gross of the D and later models?
Percy in NM, USA
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Does anyone have a copy of a 337 for the D model conversion? I am
trying to clear up some paper work confusion on my coupe and would
like to see the language used on other conversions.
Thanks,
Jeff Fallon
N789jj
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