Hi all, I just got back on line after some computer rebuild time. Hence, my two
cents worth.... isn't guiding a sled just like steering a plane? When turning
left in a
plane, as on a sled, you are pushing the right side of the yoke up and
pulling the
left side down and vise versa for the right turn. When turning left on a
sled, you drag
your left foot toes on the snow to make a better turn and in a plane you use
the left
rudder to make the turn and vise versa for the right turn.
I have not been on a sled for at least 35 of my 61 years and perhaps I have
forgotten some of the technical aspects of sledding. If so, and I have missed
the point of all this, I humbly appologize.
Scott
5458F
"Harry L. Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dan and the group,
All interesting discussions, but let me add a point about rudder pedal
training.
There is a need to overcome learned responses...not in an airplane , but from
riding a sled. The controls on an airplane are opposite from that of a
sled...which many of us learned to control down the snow covered hills as a
youngster....thus firmly embeded in our automatic response system.
On the sled, to turn right, you push the left handle forward; to turn left,
you push the right handle forward.
In an airplane, to keep co-ordinated in a turn, as you turn the control to
the left, or counter clockwise, you push the left rudder pedal (opposaite your
automatic learned response)...and just the opposite when turning to the right.
So, without a few hours in a three control airplane to OVERCOME the child
leaarned automatic responses to a turn; in an exciting time on landing, you
will probably use the wrong reseponse......learned in childhood on a
sled.....and mess up a landing...and possibly an aircraft. Same thing applies
to turning the plane on the ground with use of the rudder pedals.....automatic
response needs to be changes to aircraft use, not snow sledding.
I gues this doesn't apply to folks growing up in areas wher they never got to
play in the snow. :)
Just for fun, I always do my bi-annual in a three control aircraft, to try to
keep my automatic responses up to date...
Fly Safe - Have Fun
Harry Francis
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From: Dan Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; fnelson913 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
[email protected]
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2007 3:17:24 AM
Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Re: Tale of Woe - Update and Rudder Pedal Plea
You know, I believe that some of our modern top line fighters now take care
of the rudder activation for the pilot (electronically of course).
If it's good enough for the Wright Brothers and top line US fighters....
(or perhaps it should be the other way around; "if it's good enough for the
Coupe then...."?)
Here's a slightly tongue in cheek quote sure to inflame a few;
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"If I wanted peddles, I'd buy a bicycle."
- Percy Wood
BTW - Before I purchased my Ercoupe I had 400 + hours and earned my
Instrument rating & Commercial license, including slip & emergency maneuver
training, in aircraft with rudder pedals (even some tail wheel time). It
took a while to adjust to not using the pedals however; as Ed pointed out
the Coupe is capable of landing safely in 30 MPH cross winds. I think
someone a bit more opinionated who shall remain un-named once said; "The
Coupe doesn't need any stinking rudder pedals. " ;-)
Dan Hall
N3968H
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