I agree with Ed, the doggie  spiral do not work well at EAA. I belong to EAA 
Chapter 444, we make our own tie downs and sell them on the north end during 
EAA. I can not tell you how many times we help remove broken doggie ties from 
the ground with a pipe wrench, or how many we find when one brakes and we just 
find them in the ground, not good for tires! We sell them for $20 or rent for 
$10. I plan on being at Wausau for the National event. I would be happy to 
bring some with me if I knew how many! You do need a hammer to put them in the 
ground, but they work. You get three ties downs with rope for each, We sell 
about 150 - 200 per EAA event. Also, it's a county law that all planes must be 
tried down at EAA. 
   
   
   
  Tony
   
  Ed Burkhead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
              
  Rick,
  
  Those dog tie down connector loops look to be about the same thickness of 
metal as the rope-loops on the spiral doggie-ties that break off so easily.  I 
trust you aren’t tying your rope to the loops that came with the dome tie-out 
stake.
  
  The pull on the tie-down rope has to be greater than 500 lb. to lift the 
plane and might well, in a good micro-gust, be way higher.
  
  I’ve seen some of the spiral doggie ties break both at the rope-loop and at 
the main stem.  I certainly wouldn’t willingly use one of those.  The dome 
tie-out stake you advocate looks like the spike might be thicker, at least.
  
  Since they are so cheap, you might want to test three or four of them to see 
how they stand up to 500-1,500 lb. pulls, both in the strength of the metal and 
their ability to resist pull-out in various dirt types.  I’d be interested in 
your results.
  
  I’m inclined to go with the claw.  It looks more substantial to me.
  
  Ed
  
      
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  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Rick Green
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Po' man's tie downs

  
    Several people asked for more info on this.... I found a site on line that 
sells them - with a picture.  I got mine cheaper at wal-mart.  I use the swivel 
hook in light winds and tie under the flange long-term parking.  

    

    I got the leatther gym bag in a flea-market type discount store for 2-3 
bucks.  

    

    Go to www.arcatapet.com and search for "Dome tie outs".  Here is the direct 
link:

    

    
http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Ddog%2Btie%2Bout%2Bstake%2Bdome%26fr%3Dyfp-t-501-s%26ei%3Dutf-8%26js%3D1%26x%3Dwrt&w=400&h=400&imgurl=www.arcatapet.com%2Ffullsize%2F3729.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arcatapet.com%2Fitem.cfm%3Fcat%3D3729&size=10.9kB&name=3729.jpg&p=dog%20tie%20out%20stake%20dome&type=JPG&oid=78cc895d45247ed4&no=1&tt=5

It's an option!

    

    Rick   415C

    

    
    
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