Just as a suggestion, first verify that all cylinders are firing. With a cold 
engine, start and let it run at any RPM for about 30 seconds. Kill the engine, 
open the cowlings. Wet the tip of a finger with "spit" and quickly swipe one 
exhaust pipe. Wet finger again and test the other three. (this is the same way 
you check a clothes iron to see if it is hot)
 
See if one or more cylinder's exhaust is cold or noticably cooler than the 
others. With the flodding you described (overflow) you may have wetfouled some 
plugs.
 
I would also recommend pulling the drain plug from the carburetor float bowl 
and drain the gas in the bowl into a clear glass jar. Look for water.
 
By the way, when you first start it does it blow out black exhaust for a second 
or two?(flooding-rich mixture)
 
When you try to advance the throttle do you get any backfire? (intake leak-lean 
mixture)
 
Good luck
Bill



To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 
09:26:56 +0000Subject: RE: [ercoupe-tech] Re: Several Questions.



Well, the O-200 crank STC is NOT about changing your engine to a O-200 engine 
with that performance.Even though the crank gives you more torque, it should 
all stay within the 85 hp (well maybe up to 90). I doubt that you could find a 
Stromberg carburetor description for a O-200. These engines were fitted with 
the Marvel -Schebler originally and do have a bigger ventury too I assume. They 
are also designed for engine speeds of around 2700 rpm unlike our C-85s with 
their 2575 max. rpm.The Strombergs had been used up to the C-90, which comes 
very close to a C-85 engine with the O-200 crank Stc. Changes to the carburetor 
for the C-90 had been a one number bigger main metering jet and a bigger main 
air bleed.These changes affect the engines high power output but do nothing to 
the idle circuit of the carburetor. As I understand the problem here is not 
enough power, but smooth engine operation.  I would not be that fast on jumping 
to conclusions. Before changing jets I rather recommend swapping carburetors 
with a known good one and see if the problem disappears. There are many other 
sources for a lean mixture. Like loose or over tightened clamps on the intake 
hoses, leaking gaskets on the intake flanges on the cylinders. This by the way 
is more common than you think. When installing the exhaust system on our Coupes 
one has to remove the intake elbows on 2 cylinders, otherwise you can't fit the 
exhaust. Reattaching them is a real pain. If not done right, you have an intake 
leak there. Ok. I am off the soap box.  Hartmut      

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 00:10:36 
+0000Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Re: Several Questions.


The C-85's that have the 0-200 crank STC have a very common problem of running 
lean. We had a j-3 with this problem. It ran fine with a certain carb on it. 
When it was nosed over it was broken. We had a spare one, my boss said that 
they had tried the spare before and it didn't run. I took the two of them apart 
to see the difference between them. It was the jets. Which makes sence. I 
swaped the jets and it worked fine. One other thing, when you convert a C-75 to 
C-85 there is a jet change. When you do the stc may be there should be a change 
too. I have a parts manual for the stromberg, I'll see if I can find jets for a 
0-200. Mark--- In [email protected], Bob Stearns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:>> I was just (coincidentally) thinking of posting a reverse carb> 
problem. Mine is that the engine runs fine below say, 60F but often> fails to 
idle below 1,000 at temps in the 80's and 90's. In fact the> engine has stalled 
while taxiing during the summer. A short prime and> I'm off and running. FYI, 
central South Carolina. > > Everything> else about our two planes is pretty 
much the same. C85 with O200 STC> and I assume, a Stromberg carb. Both of our 
problems must be of a> piece. So, I'm watching this space, anticipating an 
answer I can use.>

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