Question on belleville main springs:

I just bought a 415-C with the dual fork nose gear, and it's drooping 
a bit (about 68" at the tail).  When I pulled the main gear cover to 
see if the rubber donuts were in need of replacement, I found it has 
bellevilles.  Can anyone tell me how long the belleville stack should 
be (compressed or uncompressed)?  It has a dual fork, and I figure 
I'll need to add spacers, but I don't know how you tell if the 
bellevilles need replacement (other than the obvious collapsed 
washer).  There is a bit of slop when the stack is uncompressed.
I assume that the belleville stack will need to be compressed to put 
the snap ring on similar to the donut stack?
Also, can anyone tell me whether these things need lubrication during 
assembly (and if so, what kind)?

Thanks,

Chris


--- In [email protected], "kgassert" <kgass...@...> wrote:
>
> Ed,
> 
> The spacers are not part of the stack. They are on top of it and 
add 
> to the height and subtract from the travel. I will have to agree 
that 
> the springs will probably not compress as much as the donuts, even 
> new ones, when the weight is on the gear. But I would have to see 
it 
> to believe it would be enough. It was not in my case. Are you going 
> to make it to the Nationals and/or OSH?
> 
> Kevin
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Ed Burkhead" <ed@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Kevin wrote:
> > > I see no physical way the springs can raise the tail. There is 
> only
> > > so much distance between where the stack sits on the strut and 
the
> > > snap ring on the top that holds it all together. The donuts and
> > > springs are the same height and fit between the same stopper 
and 
> snap
> > > ring. I needed spacers on my Ercoupe that had springs. Anyone 
out
> > > there have springs and a double fork that does not need spacers?
> > 
> > Kevin,
> > 
> > I'm thinking that the spacers and the Belleville springs have the 
> same
> > effect:  They make the stack taller when the stack is compressed 
by 
> the
> > weight of the plane while on the ground.
> > 
> > When the weight is off the plane, the stack expands to the limits.
> > 
> > When the weight is on the stack, it compresses till the 
resistance 
> matches
> > the weight.
> > 
> > Apparently, good, new Belleville springs hold the compressed 
stack 
> up higher
> > than do compressed donuts.
> > 
> > Ed
> >
>


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