I may be a minority of one, but it appears to me we are giving paperwork undue influence over an owner's right to secure and enjoy maximum safe airframe/engine performance. Airframe drag is what it is on a given Alon, Forney or Ercoupe. Engine health is what it is so long as the engine is "airworthy" and the
owner does not contemplate overhaul in the near future.

If performance is a priority to the Ercoupe or Forney owner, he likely only occasionally flies around with an open canopy. If the pilot gives priority to preserving number and quality of choices in event of power loss, he likely does not fly cross country at low altitudes. If performance isn't a priority, most any prop will do.

The idea is curious, at best, that some FAA drone or DER would purport to"de-rate" an 0-200 from 100 HP to 90 HP output because the Alon engine mount had not been "proven" adequate for 100 HP operations. There should be an option for the owner to operate in the Experimental category for such evaluation as the FAA deems necessary to such proof (and I seem to recall an STC "out there" that should be referable as
approved engineering data for 100 HP on an Ercoupe mount).

In the above context I consulted the Operator's Manual for Continental A & C Series & 0-200, Form X30012, 1980. The "Introduction" states that "Recommendations, cautions and warnings regarding operation of this engine are NOT (emphasis added) intended to impose undue restrictions on operation of aircraft, but are inserted to enable the pilot to obtain maximum performance from the engine commensurate with safety and efficiency." (refer back to my first sentence) I would suggest that the FAA has identical responsibility.

The 0-200 Sea Level Performance curve is on page 30. At any other altitude, performance will be less; and under "non-standard" conditions other than winter such should also be presumed. Note that no propeller or airframe information is given because engine performance is unrelated-see below.

Fred Weick "wrote the book" on aircraft propeller design. I have a copy. At the 2750 RPM that the 0-200 achieves rated horsepower, and for any airplane speed between 100 and 140 MPH. propellers under 80" diameter tip speed has no effect on efficiency. Also, maximum revolutions available at 10,000' MSL with an unsupercharged engine are only about 3% lower than maximum revolutions available at sea level.

He states that while the thrust, torque, and power of a propeller vary directly with the density of the air, propeller efficiency is independent of density, remaining the same for a given RPM regardless of altitude. Thus, the "cruise" propeller reaching greatest efficiency at maximum sea level speed will also reach greatest efficiency at maximum horizontal speed at 10,000' MSL, and the "climb" propeller providing best rate of climb will do so all the way up from sea level to maximum possible ceiling for an engine/airframe combination.

Contemporary practice ignores the fact that the "ideal" propeller for maximum speed performance is of smaller diameter than the "ideal" propeller for climb or cruise efficiency. We have discussed static RPM at times on
this list, usually with reference to ATC 718 and 787 limits.

ATC 718 purports to require a static RPM range for the "C-75 or C-85" 74FC (74" original) Sensenich wood prop at "maximum permissible throttle" (which I would presume to be identical to "wide open when no one is looking): not over 2100, not under 1850 (RPM). Ercoupe Service Memorandum No. 37 shows excerpts from
ERCO engineering report testing of an Ercoupe at 1260 lb. with the C-75.

The pitch of the selected 74" production wood Sensenich allowed the engine to turn up 2600 RPM in level flight to achieve a maximum speed of 121 MPH. The pitch of the selected 73" optional metal McCauley allowed the engine to turn up 2500 RPM in level flight to achieve a maximum speed of 122 MPH. Note in each case that ERCO was not in the least concerned with the original arbitrary and excessively conservative "maximum continuous horsepower" rating Continental assigned the C-75 before it utilized the exact same same mechanical parts in the later C-85 and Continental confirmed to ERCO it was aware and unconcerned.

In every example in the Continental Operator's Manual described above, the (desired?) Prop Load rises to intersect the Full Throttle horsepower curve at maximum "rated horsepower". It should be obvious that any propeller selected must allow "rated horsepower" to be achieved in that part of the aircraft operating
envelope the owner gives priority.

Since the C-90 in the Forney and Alon has a cam that develops rated power at 2475 (100 RPM less than the C-85) I would expect that the most efficient prop choice would be a McCauley 74" (or more) in diameter with a maximum pitch allowing 2475 RPM in level flight at 1400 (F-1) or 1450 (F-1A) lbs. gross ("Cruise" prop). A good "Climb" prop should be three or four pitches less. The best possible fixed-pitch compromise should be
somewhere in between.

For an 0-200 in an Alon, I would start with the 69.5 to 71" McCauley pitched to achieve 2750 RPM in level flight at 1450 lbs. and, say, a true airspeed of 127 MPH ("Cruise" prop). If I were buying the prop new, I'd want the full 71". Again, a good "Climb" prop should be three or four pitches less; and the best possible fixed- pitch compromise somewhere in between. This is the long, hard way to agree with Ed's suggestion that a McCauley 1A105/SCM7153 might be as good a starting point as a 1-A-90CF or 1-B-90CM.

Static RPM, in each case should be the range exhibited by the tested range of diameters and pitch thus derived. There are no longer any published "critical ranges" for McCauley props listed in ATC 718 and 787, therefore unless a selection might emerge from the above that had characteristics of concern to McCauley, it should be performance and not paperwork that determines propeller selection.

Just my opinion (and I've never owned an Alon nor experimented with Sensenich metal props).

William R. Bayne
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On Jan 21, 2009, at 11:56, Ed Burkhead wrote:
 
Wayne wrote:
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The Alon with the O-200 in it might have been caught in the 1990 contaminated fuel crisis wherein there were several O-200's installed by the fuel companies when there fuel inventories were contaminated by jet fuel.  The reason the O-200's were installed was that there were not enough C-90 cases for Continental to rebuild at the time.  The oil company had to replace about 300 engines nationwide. Sandy Beliwitz got an O-200 and she hated it, her plane was slower and used more fuel with the short propeller.
 
Before I went swapping propellers I would like to know if I was making power with my engine with an accurate Tachometer, and static power reading with the propeller I already had legal paperwork for.
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Hum, that’s an interesting thought about the engine replacement.
 
The propeller standard on the Cessna C-150 that was specified for the O-200 engine installation on the Ercoupes makes a climb propeller on the Ercoupes.  And, that can be good because a lot of the Ercoupe owners who install an O-200 are people who really need maximum climb performance due to high altitude airports or terrain.
 
The Alon airframe is somewhat more efficient than the Ercoupe because, I think, the improved canopy shape.  Alons seem to cruise about 5-10 mph faster than Forney Aircoupes which have the same engine.  The C-90 equipped Alons climb nicely, too, compared to C-85 equipped Ercoupes.  (I haven’t compared their climb to C-90 equpped Forney Aircoupes.)
 
Putting a prop on an O-200 equipped Alon that would be a climb prop on an O-200 equipped Ercoupe just doesn’t seem right.  It’d be too much of a climb prop and cruise would stink.
 
Within the legalities, I think it would be a good experiment to mount the 1A105/SCM7153 prop from a C-90 Alon and record the climb and cruise performance, static rpm and in cruise redline rpm you get.
 
Don Baker has been working with an AI and DER, I think.  I hope he can get this resolved properly without too much expense.
 
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