Bob.

 

I might add to the excellent comments of the others that the spring engages 
only at around 13 degrees elevator up. Elevator down is no effect.

I also might add that the force of the spring can not be overcome by the trim 
tab forces on the elevator.

 

That means, even if you trim for let's say 40 MPH (assumed you could do that) 
then the plane will slow down only as much as the elevator spring allows it to 
do.

THat is around 60 MPH - slower only by adding forces to the controls.

 

This feature came in handy when I ones had my ASI quit on a flight. I just let 
my plane hang in there and knew I was making around 60 on approach.

It also comes in handy when flying Hands off or letting your co pilot take the 
controls.

You know the plane can be brought only into dangerously slow flight when 
someone overcomes the force of the spring. The spring is therefore a safety 
feature, not a convenience feature.

 

Hartmut
 


To: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:23:49 -0600
Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Elevator Return Spring




Hi Bob,

The spring you describe is 415-52026, and should be 18" long.  It connects to 
one 
of three holes in a generally triangular steel "link", said "link" being 
connected to the 
elevator arm with the same bolt as pushrod that activates the elevator.

When correctly adjusted, this spring should not interfere with trimming an 
airframe for
hands off level flight between "cruise" (nose low) and "land" (nose high) 
positions.  
The range of elevator operation available without encountering the effect of 
this spring 
should be more than sufficient for normal flight.  Its purpose is to provide a 
"feel" for a
such rearward position of the yoke as should result in a power off 60 mph TAS 
glide.  

This position is NOT the rearmost position of the yoke available for flaring 
before 
touchdown at absolute minimum speed, as by increasing the rearward force on the 
yoke considerable additional "up" elevator is available before reaching the 
stop on the 
control wheel shaft.  

In normal "level" cruise flight, i.e. where the plane is neither climbing nor 
descending 
from a given altitude, the Ercoupe is in a subtle "nose down" configuration 
which also 
affords improved forward visibility.  The design engine downthrust was 
incorporated 
to decrease the change in pitch between "power on" and "power off" operation 
with 
a propeller thrust line well above the centerline through the wing.

Lynn's reference to ESM 35A for proper rigging is 100% correct, but many 
overlook 
the last sentence of 4.a.1. directing that the left panel of the split elevator 
is to be bent
down 11-1/2º.  While this should have been done in production, a replacement 
elevator may have been fitted without this having been done, and such an 
adjustment 
is has considerable effect in achieving the desired flight characteristics.

A similar requirement to bend the entire trailing edge of elevators on  415-C, 
D and CD 
model Ercoupes downward 3º was found beneficial by Erco "to bring the airplane 
within 
the desired glide characteristics" per paragraph 15 of ESM 35, and was 
accomplished 
on Ercoupes effective about serial number 3882.

It does appear there is a lapse in our parts and Service Manuals as to this 
spring.

Regards,

William R. Bayne
.____|-(o)-|____.
(Copyright 2009)

-- 

On Feb 18, 2009, at 18:55, [email protected] wrote:


Hey Bob: The best answer is contained in Ercoupe Service Memorandum 35A. It is 
a lower speed warning cushion. Apparently it was designed to provide a power 
off warning to help prevent the pilot from getting too slow in the landing 
approach in the model E,G and F Ercoupe. The flight test adjustment procedure 
requires changing the length of the spring to keep the power off airspeed at or 
slightly above 60 MPH with the pitch control back to the point where the spring 
causes  additional force to be applied to the control. (obviously with the trim 
in full nose up condition)
    If you are getting a constant down pressure on the elevator, I would 
suggest checking the rigging in accordance with Memorandum 35A.
    The 46 415CD should not have this problem unless it has been modified with 
the split elevator and lower speed warning cushion spring.
Lynn Nelsen
 
In a message dated 2/18/2009 7:16:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[email protected] writes:

Group:  Can anyone shed light on the purpose of a coiled spring 1/2" x 14" 
which attaches to the elevator bellcrank and to the bottom of the tail fuselage 
near the tiedown eyebolt?  We have noted this spring being used on a 415E 
Ercoupe and a '57 Forney.  It is not shown in either the repair manual or 
current Univair parts manual.  It functions to place constant  down pressure on 
the elevator causing a "nose down" orientation.  Would the  pilot have to 
overcome the pressure of this spring to maintain level flight?  Could this 
conceivably be a modification to relieve the need  for the engine to be canted 
down at a 3-1/2 degree angle below the nominal thrust line, in which case the 
aircraft would achieve hands off level flight?   Any help with this apparent 
mystery would be appreciated.  Thanks.
 
Bob Blanchard
N94676 - 415CD 

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