Hi Lee,

I certainly didn't mean to attack you or anyone else with my reply.? Sorry if 
you were offended.

You said to "bring on the disagreements".? But my previous email?didn't 
directly address your email or what you said in it.

I provided what I refer to as "hard data" to make a point.? That point is that 
pouring AvGas into a plane from plastic containers is more dangerous than 
pouring AvGas into?a plane from metal containers.? That is a fact.? If you 
disagree, then that's cool with me.? If you disagree and you have?data to prove 
your position, then quite seriously, I would be very interested in seeing it.? 

I made a smart aleck?remark at the end of my prior email by saying that maybe 
the people who wrote that document didn't know what they were talking about.? 
That's just my sarcastic personality and my own sense of humor, warped though 
it may be.??Sorry if you took that as a personal?attack.? 

The fact is that AvGas moving in contact with a plastic surface generates 
static electricity.? There doesn't have to be a charge there to begin with. So 
contrary to what some may think,?putting the plastic can on the ground, or 
touching the plastic can to the airplane before fueling does not?mitigate?the 
hazard.? 
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The fact is that plastic gas cans, unless they are manufactured from special 
conductive plastic, cannot be reliably grounded with a jumper wire.??Or to be 
more accurate, the average aircraft owner (me included) is not?capable of 
effectively grounding a non-conductive plastic gas can.? Most?plastics are not 
good conductors, and the typical cheap plastic?gas cans?don't have any 
conductivity specs provided with them.???

I do agree with your statement:??"Plastic fuel containers are major storage 
units of static electricity and can kill you very quickly."? But I would add 
that they not only store static electricity, they actually generate it when 
fuel is poured into or out of them.

I also agree with your statement: "I will say that unless you are keenly aware 
of how to properly connect a static discharge wire to your plastic container, 
DON'T USE A PLASTIC CONTAINER TO FUEL OR REFUEL ANYTHING."

There are three plastic gas cans out in my hangar that I previously?used?for 
100LL AvGas.? Then we had this whole discussion about plastic gas cans and 
static electricity several months ago.? That prompted me to do some research, 
and based on what I learned,?I decided to quit using plastic?gas cans around 
the airplane.? The information is out there for the reading.

Best Regards,

Wayne DelRossi
Alon N5618F

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Wayne,

I really appreciate you and your method of turning a reply into an attack.? I 
don't advocate the use of plastic, but knowing that some will, would like to 
impart info for them to use which might save their lives.? There are some who 
do, and I am sure you never have and would never violate any law whatsoever 
pertaining to anything, speeding, running red lights & stop signs etc.? So I 
know the laws, rules, and regulations are safe in your hands.

Lee


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