Thank you very much Bill, good drawing, the point is that we have a C90 in the 
Erco, and the data sheet you sent is up to the A80 model (al least is what I 
see).

About my drawing, I dont know which is the "Normal" (safe or maximum) climb 
attitude of the Coupes (perhaps someone can tell us), I draw it that way to 
emphasize that there is a "limit" in the angle when the tank output and 
carburator intake are at a same level. In our case, the attitude was very 
steep, perhaps a bit more.

Regards
Daniel 




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From: Bill BIGGS <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:27:30 AM
Subject: RE: [ercoupe-tech] RPM Drop during Climb Out





Daniel,
 Attached are the dimensions of an a series continental engine. It is extreemly 
close to the C series
Might help you
 
It is a big file so you could read dimensions. will take a while to load
 
 
By the way, your diagram shows a 33 degree nose-up. Is this a "normal' extreme 
climb attitude?
 
Bill
 

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To: ercoupe-tech@ yahoogroups. com
From: daniel_arditi@ yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:17:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] RPM Drop during Climb Out





Ed:
    Fuel flow: Now clear enough to me.

You wrote: "Only if your plane is very light, flying solo, and the weather is 
cold so the engine is extra powerful, is it possible to get the nose so high 
that fuel does not flow properly to the engine..  Not all Ercoupes can get the 
nose this high.  As soon as the nose is lowered, power returns." 
    
This is exactly what I was waiting to hear !!!!!!!! 
 
It is hard to believe that this could happen, but we think that this could be 
the reason why the power went down soon after take off, when in a steep angle 
of climb (that was the case).
 
It is the first time I hear this, and I insist, it is hard to believe to me 
that this could happen to a plane, but of course, physically possible.
 
So, now talking about this issue, I attach a drawing I made, so if any of you 
can tell me the distance showed in the graphic (I called "d"). My friend's Erco 
Engine is a C90 and carburetor has been changed, so, perhaps is something wrong 
with that distance.
 
Best regards, and thank you very much again for all of your help !!!
 
Daniel Arditi
Buenos Aires, Argentina

 



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From: Ed Burkhead <e...@edburkhead. com>
To: Daniel Arditi <daniel_arditi@ yahoo.com>; ercoupe-tech@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 6:46:54 PM
Subject: RE: [ercoupe-tech] RPM Drop during Climb Out


Daniel Arditi wrote:

Although this explanation sounds very interesting to me, I still have some 
doubts:
 
1.- I don't understand clearly the reason why the fail occurred with 
2 people and not with one. Is it that with more weight to lift you need 
more power and that extra power (with two people inside) has 
exceeded the limit the fuel flow with the .030 could provide?  
 
Daniel,
 
The number of people and full gross weight should not have anything to do with 
loss of power.  It is normal to take off and climb at full power – always.
 
The fuel flow with the limiter is still many times what the engine can use 
(maybe 5 times as much fuel as the engine can use).
 
2.- Has the take of angle of climb anything to do with this problem ? 
 
Only if your plane is very light, flying solo, and the weather is cold so the 
engine is extra powerful, is it possible to get the nose so high that fuel does 
not flow properly to the engine.  Not all Ercoupes can get the nose this high.  
As soon as the nose is lowered, power returns.
 
Ed


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