Bill, Hartmut

There is no written reference or tolerance for having level sills as an operational aspiration.

The reason there is a "leveling means" for use in W&B calculations is to assure a common frame of reference such that all results derived from "methods acceptable to the administrator" utilizing said common frame of reference should be an "apples and apples" comparison without regard to when it was done or by whom.

Ercoupes with the 4" nose tire and wheel, the original 7.00 x 4 main tires and new rubber taxi cushions (donuts) likely had level sills on a level area of the ERCO factory floor. This would have been consistent with the KISS (keep it simple, stupid) concept of efficiency and economy of (necessary) motion.

In the same sense, when Fred Weick worked out the relationship of the wing mean airfoil centerline to the centerline of the horizontal stabilizer/elevator and the resulting assembled airframe in relationship to the ground, it is logical that he sought the most benevolent possible handling qualities for both landing and takeoff conditions. He would have done his best to assure that, as manufactured, the airframes (as described in the paragraph above) conformed to such standard.

As time passed, the rubber donuts would compress, take a "set (compressed, or thinner, from the constant weight of the airframe on them) and become harder and less efficient in absorbing taxi shocks. In the process, the tail would become lower and lower; but the effect during landing and takeoff from the resulting difference in tail height was of little importance except when pilots who had not "read the instructions" or had little Ercoupe time or proficiency encountered significant gusty crosswind. The effect could be humbling, to say the least.

For the 415-E and subsequent variants a 5" single-fork wheel (6" optional) and tire replaced the original 4" one on the nose strut. That raised the nose AND lowered the tail. To such extent as additional nose tire plies increase total circumference, that would be even more difference. Difference from what? FROM THE WAY FRED WEICK DESIGNED IT. That's the "standard" to which we should aspire. I freely admit that the E and G model likely did NOT sit level when they left the factory. Nonetheless, if these birds are safer in crosswinds with level sills, I would want mine level. Personal opinion. Personal choice.

So, are level sills mandatory? Obviously not. But, outside of ignorance, laziness or false economy, no one has yet made a convincing argument against level sills evidencing a well maintained airframe likely to perform as intended. I happen to strongly believe that if you own an Ercoupe (et al), it should have the same (or better) characteristics in flight as when it left the factory.

Can a proficient Ercoupe pilot handle the plane if it has "low tail"? Sure. But there is increased risk in strong, gusty crosswinds; and the proficient pilot ALWAYS "stacks the cards" of managing risk in his/her favor when there is no adverse trade-off. In other words, proficient pilots seek to maintain their aircraft using adequate resources and common sense. That is not in the FARs, but they do it with pride.

It should be obvious that tail height is a red herring, given the many variables possible between wheel/tire combinations of nose and main gear tires and rubber donuts or Belleville springs. That leaves the level sill.

What is the acceptable tolerance? That is up to the owner and his/her standard of maintenance. My standards are high.

In my opinion, acceptable tolerance is to drop from absolutely level (with new rubber donuts) to whatever is measured in, say, four year's service. If the drop is noticeable in crosswind performance with that extent of drop, either replace the donuts at two year's service or install Bellevilles (presuming this is economically feasible).

Regards,

William R. Bayne
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(Copyright 2009)

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On Aug 25, 2009, at 16:46, Hartmut Beil wrote:



 Bill.
  
"but I have always taken this to mean the reference used to level the aircraft for the purpose of getting accurate weight and balance data and not a specific mandate to maintain the ship in level attitude"
 
You are right.
 
Window sill level gives you correct data for the W&B calculations. Having the window sill level on the ground is only good for better ground handling, but not required by the TC specification. After all, the CAA cared for flying qualities, not so much the ground handling qualities. Any tail dragger would be disqualified if that would be so.
 
 
Hartmut

 
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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:30:04 -0400
Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Oil Change Detail & Leveling Specifications [1 Attachment]

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A few months ago, I listed a few maintenance and inspection tasks which were in my view made easier and better by dropping the tail feathers.  One item was getting more dirty engine oil out.  As a follow up, on a recent oil change, I measured the additional oil drained with the tail lowered (see attached pic).  It's a tad north of 100 ml.  Don't know if it would make any difference in the life of the engine, but it makes me feel better.  For the record, my Mason jar is traceable to NIST Class A standards and has been maintained at constant temperature and humidity since initial certification. (big silly grin)

I also have a question: We have all heard numerous times on this list about the importance of having our hatch sills level.  Can someone kindly point me to a written reference for that and ideally some tolerance in either degrees or tail height limits?  Someone asked roughly the same question not so long ago but as I recall the responses were not specific.  I know that the TCDS for aircraft gives the leveling means, but I have always taken this to mean the reference used to level the aircraft for the purpose of getting accurate weight and balance data and not a specific mandate to maintain the ship in level attitude.  I sure could be wrong on that.  Gratitude in advance to anyone that can provide the specification.  I think we all understand the concept of why it makes sense aerodynamically and why we need a level floor and what not, so I respectfully ask that you resist the urge to respond by repeating any of that.

Cheers,
Bill

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