Tony.

 

When using the O-200 crankshaft in a C-85 engine case , you don't have to do 
anything to the camshaft, because you are still using the C-85 camshaft.

 

Kim installed an O-200 in his Ercoupe . The O-200 case does not have the 
mounting pad for the mechanical fuel pump on the side nor does the O-200 
camshaft comes without the fuel pump cam.

It does though have the mounting pad for the vacuum pump on the bottom of the 
case. One can install a fuel pump there as well when using the appropriate 
adapter and add the fuel pump cam part to the camshaft.

 

 

In any case, the mechanical fuel pump should outperform the fuel consumption of 
the engine with ease.

I think Tom is onto something when he suggests checking for the right 
installation of the restrictor toward the pressure side of the pump.

 

Hartmut
 


To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:32:37 -0700
Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Fuel Replenishment Rate

  





PS,


I DO know that we did nothing to the camshaft.


TonyB
Denver
3067H




From: James Bilello <[email protected]>
To: Robert Blanchard <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 9:27:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ercoupe-tech] Fuel Replenishment Rate

  




Hi Bob,


My coupe has the C-85 with the O-200 cylinders, pistons, and crank.  When I had 
it redone about 2 years ago, I made no changes to the old C-85 configuration of 
fuel lines, etc.  I'm still using the original wobble pump as well.


The past two year fuel consumption up here in Colorado is faithfully around 5.6 
gph.


I no nothing about "orifices" but I seem to recall that we gave some 
consideration to the fitting orfice to the pump and made a change to the 
original part.  I couldn't find any documentation on the change though.  Mr 
Cooper, where are you?


TonyB
Denver
3067H
 




From: Robert Blanchard <rblanchard20@ att.net>
To: ercoupe-tech@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:51:25 PM
Subject: [ercoupe-tech] Fuel Replenishment Rate

  




 
 
Group:  We have just finished a major rebuild of 415-CD #4787, N94676 airframe. 
 Restoration work was accomplished by a highly experienced team composed of an 
AP and an AP/IA. The C-85-F engine was majored just prior to my purchase and 
fitted with the 0-200 modification.  Currently, TTSM is 28.6 hrs. As part of 
the  rebuild, the fuel plumbing system was replaced due to use of unauthorized 
components an unworkable plumbing configuration.   The new system follows the 
configuration shown in Figure 34 of the Ercoupe Service Manual.  All tanks are 
vented with serviceable gaskets.  The orifice input fitting at the fuel pump 
was measured at .062".  During post rebuild flight tests, it was discovered 
that, although fuel was being pumped from both wing tanks, the flow rate was 
insufficient to fully replenish the fuel drawn from the header tank.  This was 
particularly true with the fuel burn rate experienced during touch and go 
landings.  
 
We did not receive any engine performance data on the C-85-0200 engine with the 
airplane.  Fuel consumption data for the C-90 is appreciably higher than for 
the C-85. Assuming the C-85-0200 is reasonably approximated by the C-90 fuel 
consumption at various power levels, it occurred that the header tank fuel 
replenishment rate for the C-85-0200 may be higher than that allowed by the 
current orifice in the fuel pump of .062”.   So far, we haven’t been able to 
find data on the required orifice for the C-90 or 0200 Continental engines.  
 
First, can anyone provide fuel consumption data for the C-85-0200 engine?  Is 
the C-90 a reasonable approximation?   Is the restriction orifice of .062” 
adequate for this engine modification, or should it be relieved? If so, by how 
much?    The fuel system IS  transferring fuel from the wing tanks to the 
header tank, but the fuel transfer rate seems to be insufficient.  I am 
concerned that a fuel burn rate resulting from a long climb at full power would 
deplete the fuel from the header tank to an extent it would take an 
inordinately long time at cruise to replenish.  We would greatly appreciate any 
insights, experiences, or  recommendations that might be offered.
 
Thanks to all.
 
Bob Blanchard, Owner/Pilot
N94676
 
 











                                          
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