Hi Hartmut,

I respectfully disagree with some of what you suggest here.  Here's why:

It's been a long time since the Ercoupes left the factory, and some "good flying techniques" have changed with increased experience and the necessity to burn 100 LL fuel instead of 80/87.

The Approved Flight Manuals for both the Alon and M10 do not lump tests for "function" and "performance" together as you propose. I believe the full power static run up necessary only to verify proper operation of everything following each Annual Inspection, but that's merely my personal opinion.

Alon and Mooney each specify 1700 RPM for checking both mags and carburetor heat function. When the run up R.P.M. recommendation is specific (not a range), and the acceptable mag drop is a single "not to exceed" value (although an unspecified range of lower values is OK), it would seem to me that each of these individual numbers IS to be "satisfied". While a range of propellers and pitches is allowed per TCDS 787, and allowable static RPM varies between them does not change the single MAXIMUM allowable magneto drop deemed acceptable at 1700 R.P.M. applicable to all.

The "power check" is part of the take-off (as follows): "It is important to check full-throttle engine operation early in the take-off run" as both Dave and Ed earlier suggested. "When take-offs must be made on a gravel surface, it is important that the throttle be advanced slowly. This allows the aircraft to start rolling before high R.P.M. is developed, and the gravel will be blown back of the propeller rather than pulled into it." If the pilot routinely follows this practice, day after day, he/she will know immediately in the first 100 feet of the takeoff whether or not the engine is developing full power.

If the runway is short, the take off weight high, the density altitude high, etc., each such challenge is best addressed in advance and in appropriate detail on the ground. Once the takeoff run is initiated, the pilot's single option if full power is not being developed is to abort the takeoff with maximum possible runway remaining.

The fact that most Ercoupes do not have the C-90 engine or the Marvel carb does not cloak or dismiss such other wisdom as these later, more complete manuals have to offer the eager Ercoupe owner of today. The danger associated with a lack of mag drop should be more widely acknowledged and disseminated.

At some point the best pilots pick up the spoon and feed their own desire for excellence. You, Hartmut, have repeatedly done this; and each time graciously shared the results. Please accept my belated thanks.

Regards,

William R. Bayne
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(Copyright 2009)

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On Nov 20, 2009, at 05:18, Hartmut Beil wrote:



 Guys
  
We have to look at the purpose of the run up to come to a usable solution.
  
 Two reasons come to my mind:
  
1. we test for function of all crucial parts. Magnetos and Carburetor heat .
 2. we test for take off performance.
  
  
  
For the first test we don't need a full throttle run up. We have to notice a drop during the magneto test to verify that both are working and can be switched off.
 And the carburetor heat is tested also by noticing the drop in rpm.
  
The magneto drop should not be excessive, a drop of more than 100 rpm would indicate a non firing or barely firing spark plug. That's why you do the run-up.
 Not to satisfy some numbers.
  
Since the Ercoupe brakes are suited for slowing the plane down, but not so much for holding the plane at full throttle in a static position, it is common sense to do this kind of run up at a lower rpm. I am using 1600 rpm and I am seeing magneto rpm drops between 25 and 75 rpm. Anything more and I have to look deeper into the issue. Think about it, you don't do a full throttle run up in a tail dragger either.
  
As for the performance test, I do briefly a full power test where and when applicable before take off to be sure to reach the recommended static rpm. That rpm value differs between the allowable engine propeller combinations. For the latter reason, I am also inclined to say that the experienced drop in rpm when doing the magneto test also depends prop pitch.
  
So in result, there is no strict rpm to do the run up with. Nor is there a rpm number of magneto drop that you should or should not see. Rather than requiring a certain rpm number, I would recommend using always the same number when doing the run up. Learn what the drop usually is and be alert when it is different from the usual.
  
  
  
 Hartmut
  
  
  
  

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