Hi Jim,

Welcome!

Your question is legitimate, but suggests your concerns have arisen from unintentional oversimplification of a much more complex issue.

The rate of failure is quite low, considering the number active. Reliability of the little Continentals is dependent upon multiple factors. An accident related to loss of power is NOT necessarily an "engine issue". There is clearly nothing "wrong" with their fundamental design. These engines continue to reliably power the majority of the two place general aviation fleet, even though they must today digest a fuel containing four times the lead they were designed for (which requires a certain amount of pilot awareness and proficiency to mitigate for maximum reliability).

Fuel flow ceasing because the pilot did not properly verify that tanks were filled, or in-flight fuel consumption such that fuel was exhausted in flight are not engine-specific. Neither would be a quick drain coming out of a gascolator or wing tank, a fuel line rupturing in flight due to metal fatigue (or way too old rubber). Neither would ignoring the nose tank gauge after fuel (transfer) pump failure in flight, or fuel flow blockage due to tank slosh coming loose and blocking fuel filter screens.

For whatever reason, Ercoupes not used for rental or flight instruction generally fly less than 100 hours a year. That would suggest that the average engine goes fifteen plus years between overhauls, which is way more than the factory prefers. This is the reason that poor compression and/or oil leaks tends to require top overhauls "after a few hundred hours".

If an engine is not properly broken in (and few are), they could use a "top" as soon as the piston rings cease progressive "mating" to their cylinder walls which results in good compression and low oil consumption for the "long term". If an engine is not flown (not just run, but actually operated up in the air for a half hour or more), it should be preserved; and almost no one does this because the decision not to fly is seldom a conscious one.

Failures such as a broken crankshaft in flight are so rare as to be as statistically insignificant as they are attention-getting. In addition, in reality a "factory new" part is an untested part ;<) These engines are definitely not being "over-driven" inasmuch as they are used in racing at much greater output and found acceptably reliable even in that usage. If oil is not being changed properly, how would that affect Continentals differently than, say, Lycomings, Franklins, or Pratt and Whitneys? No piston engine is as reliable as the average kerosene burner of today.

I cannot think of an engine or an aircraft that you could be "comfortable with", given the basic thrust of your question and the personal perspective it suggests. Flying a privately owned aircraft is safe, but it is not without great responsibility and, yes, a measure of risk most of us find easy to accept.

Those 16 fatalities in the last decade include two persons in Florida and another two in California (?) that came apart due to exceeding airframe design structural limits, possibly as a result of unauthorized aerobatics. That leaves just over one a year for an operational fleet of 1500-1600.

If each of 1500 flew 50 hours, that would be 75,000 operational hours; and so one's individual risk would be two hundreths of a percent per hour flown. A similar evaluation of driving a the average car, including all the junkers on the road, would likely reveal much worse odds.

If you take the time to purchase a good Ercoupe, learn it well and bring it up to top condition, it is my personal opinion that there exists no other aircraft that will carry you from point A to point B in greater safety with anywhere near equal enjoyment or economy of operation.

Regards,

William R. Bayne
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(Copyright 2010)

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On May 8, 2010, at 11:36, Jim wrote:



Given who I'm writing to, I realize this may generate some heated discussion. Nonetheless, I really am looking for helpful input.

I've been considering buying an Ercoupe for over a year. What has kept me from doing it? Frankly, what appears to be poor engine reliability. Many of the planes for sale have had major overhauls or top overhauls long before the TBO. In some cases, top overhauls have been required after a few hundred hours.

Then, there are the in-flight problems and outright failures. According to the NTSB investigation database, there have been 76 Ercoupe accidents in the last decade accounting for 16 fatalities. Of those, accidents, 58 were engine related and accounted for 14 of the 16 fatalities. That means that, on average, there are almost 8 Ercoupe accidents a year, 6 of which can be attributed to engine issues that result in more than 1 death. In addition, we know there are engine problems that don't result in accidents, such as the guy who reported that his prop fell off (broken crankshaft) but he was close enough to his destination airport to land safely.

So, why are these engines having problems? Are they being over-driven? Is the oil not being changed often enough? Is it the lack of factory-new parts, i.e. used parts that are beyond their safe life?

I really want to understand what's going on 1) so that if I buy an Ercoupe, I can be reasonably sure the engine won't, given proper care, quit on me, and 2) so I know what kind of use and care the engine needs to keep it reliable? Or, are these C-75 and C-85 engines just not reliable no matter what you do, due to design or age or whatever?

 Regards,
 Jim Hart





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