Wow, it feels like it's 2000. Erlang stepping on up!

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Martin Logan <[email protected]>wrote:

> Not required anymore. Have you guys seen the latest twitter stuff from
> Erlang factory. The Erlang/OTP team is adding file and line number as
> compile time info to the AST. Sasl dumps will have the info!!!!!!
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Eric Merritt <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > I am fine with {Module, Line, Term}, It matches the existing thing
> better.
> >
> > As for function, if you want that you always have access to the stack
> > trace. So i don't thing there is really a need to go to that depth.
> > The module is mainly there so you can do the whole Module:format_error
> > thing.
> >
> > Why make the exception a record?
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Martin Logan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> I think for errors it could be a bit much. If you were to use such a
> >> thing for errors then the tagging atom should be unique, not just
> >> error, to distinguish it from errors that don't use that format. For
> >> exceptions however, I agree, it is not overkil. I think we should go
> >> {Module, Line, Term} however as the ordering makes more sense to me.
> >> We could also think about optionally adding in Function (the function
> >> that generated the exception) in certain cases, perhaps optional for
> >> efficiencies sake, but that may just be too complex. You don't
> >> actually gain anything by putting it in first position because it is a
> >> tuple which leads me to the next change I would make. I would make the
> >> exception a record.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Eric Merritt <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>> Guys,
> >>>
> >>>  I propose that we adopt the stdlib approach to errors printing with a
> >>> couple of changes. Right now it is very common for things in kernel
> >>> and stdlib to throw exceptions lie.
> >>>
> >>> {error, {Line, Mod, Term}}
> >>>
> >>> and then provide a function called format_error in the module called
> >>> named by 'Mod' to convert that into a string. I think we should do the
> >>> same but with a couple of differences in the organization. I would
> >>> like the reason to be more accessible at runtime so, they can be
> >>> matched on. The printing of an error message is secondary to
> >>> understand why something is being through. Also we can drop part of
> >>> this, in general we have the policy to throw exceptions instead of
> >>> returning errors. In those cases, the 'error' is not needed its
> >>> already a thrown exception.
> >>>
> >>> throw({pe, Reason::term(), {Mod::module(), Line::integer()}})
> >>>
> >>> In those few cases, where we explicitly return errors we may do the
> following
> >>>
> >>> {error, {pe, Reason::term(), {Mod::module(), Line::integer()}}
> >>>
> >>> In both these cases the pe indicates that an exception is printable
> >>> using the method described above.
> >>>
> >>> I would like some consistent means of getting user readable exceptions
> >>> from the things that throw them. What do you guys think? Overkill?
> >>>
> >>> Eric
> >>>
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