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>Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 12:31:45 -0800
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
>Subject: [ERPS] Minutes of ERPS #247  
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Minutes of ERPS General Meeting #247
>07 November 2002
>
>The President called the meeting to order at 8:20 PM.  
Members present 
>were Kevin Bollinger, Randall Clague, Bill Clawson, Nate 
Dietrich, Rick 
>Eversole, David Masten, Alex Mikhailov, Pierce Nichols, 
Gerald Nordley, 
>Dan Solvin, Adrian Tymes, David Weinshenker, and Chris 
Winter. Two 
>visitors from NASA-Ames Research Center also attended. Mark 
Blair and 
>Michael Wallis were out of the country on business.
>
>Reports and discussion on agenda items were as follows:
>
>CMT
>---
>Kevin Bollinger
>
>       Nothing to report
>
>DOCUMENTATION
>-------------
>Chris Winter
>
>       Chris has made some progress on the images for the 
>Rocketdyne report. Much work on them remains to be done: 
scanning 
>the originals that didn't translate to Word the first time, 
cleaning up 
>noise, tracing the graphs in Illustrator, adding legends, 
callouts & 
>captions to figures, and adjusting sizes. The text, as 
previously noted, is 
>fully digitized.
>
>       Preparation of the ERPS 2003 Data CD-ROM was 
discussed. 
>Chris requested Kevin to make up a list of his proposed 
contents, so that 
>we can better organize next year's effort. Kevin agreed to 
do this.
>
>INFOTECH
>--------
>Sean Lynch
>
>       None of our servers has been compromised within the 
past 
>month. However, we (or more properly our ISP, Hurricane 
Electric) was 
>recently -- for reasons unknown -- blacklisted by Osiris 
(sp?). This has 
>now been resolved.
>
>LIAISON & PAO
>-------------
>Michael Wallis
>
>       Several members were privately e-mailed by someone 
outside 
>the U.S. asking for details on peroxide purification. The 
consensus was 
>that such inquiries should be re-directed to the public mail 
list, and 
>answered there (if at all) only with a warning that any 
attempt to do this 
>holds hazards for the inexperienced -- which is precisely 
why such 
>processes are not described on the Web.
>
>       Randall noted that one Richard Speck fired a rocket 
fueled by 
>alcohol and HTP in Colorado. He survived. (This is another 
potentially 
>hazardous activity, since alcohol and peroxide form 
explosive mixtures.)
>
>LOGISTICS
>---------
>Sean Lynch
>
>       Nothing to report
>
>TREASURER
>---------
>Michael Wallis
>Chris Winter
>
>       Chris reported the current balance. No funds were 
disbursed at 
>this meeting.
>
>CHIEF SCIENTIST
>---------------
>Kevin Bollinger
>
>       Kevin showed a vortex chiller made by X-Air that can 
drop 
>temperature by 150 Deg. Celsius.
>
>       He offered to sacrifice an engine for development of 
cat packs 
>and test of cermet catalyst. This would have some 
>ports drilled into it that would render it unusable for 
flight.
>
>       Another need is to find better ways of making pellets 
from the 
>cermet catalyst. A combustion chamber is a rather severe 
thermo-
>acoustic environment, where poorly bonded pellets will 
disintegrate, 
>heading south with the exhaust plume -- and the performance 
of the 
>rocket.
>
>       Kevin requested a small amount of max-concentration 
HTP for 
>tests of hypergolic biodiesel propellants. He will need this 
in one or two 
>weeks.
>
>FLIGHT CONTROLS
>---------------
>Bill Clawson
>
>       Due to the Hallowe'en holiday, no FC team meeting was 
held last 
>week. The next meeting is scheduled for 14 November.
>
>       At the previous meeting, some progress was made on 
software. 
>The snubber diodes are on hand, and data on the ADXRS150 
gyro chip 
>(presented at the meeting) indicate this will do the job for 
us.
>
>       Bill described Gizmocopter for our two visitors.
>
>PROPELLANTS
>-----------
>Pierce Nichols
>
>       Pierce and Dave M have finished welding the structure 
for the 
>sparger. It was reliably reported that the pockets of blue 
language 
>trapped by cobwebs in Pierce's garage have largely 
dissipated, and local 
>BLL (Blue Language Levels) have dropped to acceptable 
concentrations.
>
>       Some assembly remains to be done on the sparger.
>
>REGULATORY
>AFFAIRS
>-------
>Randall Clague
>
>       Pierce has a hard copy of the shipping papers for the 
peroxide he 
>will be transporting. We plan to comply with the hazardous 
materials 
>regulations for this transport, though we are not legally 
required to do so. 
>Having a printed copy of the shipping papers in the cab of 
the transport 
>vehicle is part of this. Another part is placards and labels.
>
>       For the flight tests, we will have a waiver to 50,000 
feet. Expected 
>ceiling for the vehicle is 11,000 feet. The window is 
expected to open at 9 
>AM on flight day.
>
>SAFETY
>------
>Dave Masten
>
>       Safety is AOK.
>
>TESTING
>-------
>Dave Masten
>
>       Three successful tests of the KISS-III engine were 
performed on 
>Sunday. The engine delivered 95% of desired thrust. The 
shortfall was 
>laid to the presence of a 90-degree elbow which added some 
extra 
>pressure drop. This elbow is not part of the flight 
configuration.
>
>       Despite all efforts, the Dataq data acquistion system 
failed to 
>respond. Data were taken from the backup system, which 
consisted of 
>two LCD displays showing tank pressure and chamber pressure. 
Since 
>Dave M has his new, superior data acquisition system almost 
ready, 
>troubleshooting of the Dataq system was deferred, perhaps 
indefinitely.
>
>Gizmocopter
>-----------
>Bill Clawson
>
>       See the entry for Flight Controls, above.
>
>KISS
>----
>Mark Blair
>
>       The KISS program team will pack up the vehicle and 
all gear at 
>CDI after the meeting tonight, and depart for Mojave 
tomorrow. Setup is 
>planned for Saturday and flights for Sunday. Current plans 
(which may 
>change) are to do two flights of KISS-III, with 4-liter and 
7-liter propellant 
>loadings, and to fly a solid motor. Due to schedule 
pressure, the 10-liter 
>flight of KISS-III is postponed until our next opportunity. 
Observers will 
>travel down on Saturday.
>
>       Forecasts indicate that weather at Mojave is 
improving slowly. 
>Saturday is expected to be partly cloudy, with winds of 20-
30 mph. 
>Sunday should bring gentler winds.
>
>       Denny's in Mojave is the assembly point. Setup team 
is to meet 
>at 10 AM on Saturday. Flight crew and observers meet at 7 AM 
on 
>Sunday.
>
>SMARTFLIGHT
>-----------
>Dave Weinshenker
>
>       Dave W and Sean have gotten the microcontroller to 
respond to 
>keyboard commands. The purpose of this system is to collect 
flight data, 
>store it in on-board non-volatile memory, and also broadcast 
it to a 
>ground station via amateur packet radio. It will include a 
beacon function 
>to assist in recovery operations.
>
>Spike
>-----
>Sean Lynch
>
>       A design meeting was held last week. Sean will post 
minutes, 
>including significant vehicle parameters.
>
>POGO
>----
>Dave Masten
>
>       A final quote for engine construction (contracted) is 
in hand; 
>purchasing wil be started ASAP. As before, Gizmocopter 
software 
>development is the pacing item.
>
>COMPOSITES
>----------
>Kevin Bollinger
>
>       Kevin's filament winder is essentially complete. He 
would like a 
>place to store it temporarily so he can more easily move 
some other 
>hardware around.
>
>SPARGER/FF
>----------
>Pierce Nichols
>
>       See the entry for propellants.
>
>NEW BUSINESS
>------------
>
>       The two visitors from NASA-Ames were invited since 
their work 
>involves developing hardware that uses HTP, and they may be 
of 
>assistance in ERPS gaining permission to do static tests on 
the Ames 
>facility. A lengthy discussion was held, and various 
concerns were 
>brought out. The bottom line is that we need to identify and 
contact 
>whoever has authority for oxidizing propellants at Ames. 
Gerald Nordley 
>agreed to continue to act as liason with Ames, and to 
identify this 
>responsible authority in concert with the visitors.
>
>
>Meeting #247 adjourned at 10:05 PM. The next meeting will 
take place 
>on 7 November 2002.
>
>
>Aftermath
>---------
>A total of $6.00 in pun taxes was collected. The secretary 
believes that 
>most of this is prepayment for the upcoming trip to Mojave.
>
>
>Respectfully submitted,
>
>Chris Winter
>Secretary, ERPS
>
>
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