On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 19:39:03 -0500 (EST), Henry Spencer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> ICAO sea level density of air: 1.225 kg/m^3
>> liters per mole at STP: 22.4
>
>What temperature is the ICAO number at?  STP is 0degC 760torr, and air
>at that temperature is 1.2928kg/m^3, it says here.  (Hmm, the accompanying
>table for near-STP conditions would give 1.225 at 15degC 760torr.)

15* C is correct.

>> Oh bother.  14.4 is 20% N 80% O.
>
>Nope, 14.4 is 80%N, 20%O.  Note, however, that the atmosphere is just over
>78%N, just under 21%O, and just under 1%Ar (atomic weight = molecular
>weight = about 40).  The molecular weight of air is about 28.96. 

So I did it right (for a BOTE) the first time...I'll cheerfully accept
a 0.56% percent on a BOTE, and that 's probably the argon.

>> With 15.6 I get...2.06 g/mol.  Still a 3% error.
>
>I'm a little unsure how you're computing this.  Density of hydrogen at STP
>is 0.0899kg/m^3, which would make 22.4 liters of it 2.01376g, just about
>right.

1.225 kg/m^3 for air = 1.225 g/dm^3
22.4 dm^3/mol
Multiply: result is 27.44 g/mol for air

Molecular weight of air =~ 28.8
Molecular weight of H2 =~ 2

Factor is 14.4

Molar weight of H2 = 
(27.44 / 14.4) = 1.906.

I get a density of 0.085, BTW.  So at least I'm consistent.

Oh bother.  Never mind.  Boy, air temperature is more important than I
realized.  I've been using ICAO 76, which is not I say again not STP.
As Henry speculated, ICAO temp is 15* C.  The difference is 5.5%,
almost exactly my error in the H2 density.

-R

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