Gentlefolk,

With a GLOW of around 200 tons and a mass ratio of 20+, my feeling is that an 
orbital vehicle is an entirely different thing than a fighter or an X-prize 
vehicle in the HTHL discussion.  If a single vehicle, I don't think you're 
wheels up at anything like 70 m/s; the wings to do that would be too big to lift 
to orbit, and if not, the thing would fly like a paper airplane coming back.  
To save gravity losses and wing area, it would want to be going as fast as 
practical before lifting off; more like 120 m/s, which a .9 g initial acceleration 
will achieve some 800 m down the runway.  
   With a steep climbout, it would get a lot of potential energy quickly and 
also have a high angle of attack.   Because of that, in an all-engines-out 
scenario maybe 2 km from liftoff, I think it would lose ground speed quickly and 
come back fast, hard, and horizontally slow, with something like 1.2 km out of 
a 4 km runway left.  My first thought is that, for an orbital vehicle, 
undercarriage strength, and not runway length, will be the main concern in such a 
circumstance.  (Randall might say "Splat!" ;-) )
    But this would depend on many specific trades, and one can imagine other 
flight profiles.
    An x-prize vehicle with a lower mass ratio and wing loading would much 
more plausibly resemble a souped up jet.   By the same token, the x-prize may be 
won by a vehicle that represents a technological dead end as far as space 
access is concerned.   I would much rather have seen the money go to a 90% 
reusable orbital mission of any size.  On the other hand, it's probably more 
important for the x-prize to produce positive publicity than technology.
   Without spending all day on this, I think HTHL is much more suited to 
carrier aircraft or in-flight fueling scenarios than for single vehicle SSTO, a 
scenario marginal enough to make me sympathetic to the "wings are dead mass" 
argument.   Engines out at 200 m/s and 5-10 km altitude gives one many more 
survival options.  
    For SSTO, I like the VTVL "flying fuel tanks" that come back with lots of 
area per unit mass.  Catastrophic early abort could be handled by a separable 
capsule design that saves the crew/avionics/payload.  With clever, creative 
design, in a fully reusable vehicle, that could even double as part of the VL 
system, without separation.

--Best, Gerald

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