--- Henry Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Aug 2004, Alex Fraser wrote:
> > People own property because states recognise
> deeds, no state no 
> > ownership (other than firepower allows).
> 
> More precisely:  states are the level at which "as
> firepower allows" is
> considered legally legitimate as a way of settling
> such questions. 

Some would debate whether even states are legally
allowed - except that even today, it tends to work
when used, especially when it involves the eradication
of the opposing state's government.

> > The oceans beyond national limits are a commons 
> > and people have worked this out legally for years.
> 
> Careful here:  ocean-floor mining is a trouble spot,
> afflicted by many of
> the same legal problems that could trouble
> commercial exploitation of
> space resources, and hence not much pursued.  That's
> not a good ideal to
> aim for.

Actually, the UN conventions seem to pretty solidly
define the limits.  When mobile, you're treated as a
ship; when immobile, you're treated as an oil rig or
other artificial island.  They do require a tax,
starting after 5 years of production, with compliance
exacted through your state.  (Any ship or artificial
island in international waters claiming no nationality
may be seized by any warship at any time, under the
same convention, which seems to treat statelessness as
a crime just short of piracy, since the stateless
refuse to be governed by any law.)
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