If you take the subject and event example and scale that up ten fold so that the object has 20 methods instead of 2 the code quickly becomes hard to maintain and the size over the wire increases quickly. I think what Ihab said points this out clearly and without a good forwarding mechanism ZI seems unmaintainable.
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 15:33, Peter Michaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Brendan Eich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> No, prototypes are here to stay. There's even Object.create to >> relieve prototypers from having to write constructor functions. >> >> The desire to explore ZI is two-fold: >> >> 1. It may help the committee to see the smallest possible proposal, >> and work up from there to SI and MI. >> >> 2. It may help the language to avoid adding another kind of >> inheritance than prototype-based delegation. > > In a famous email, which many here have probably read, Alan Kay wrote > about leaving inheritance out of "object-oriented programming". > > From: http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~ram/pub/pub_jf47ht81Ht/doc_kay_oop_en > > <blockquote> > - I didn't like the way Simula I or Simula 67 did inheritance > (though I thought Nygaard and Dahl were just tremendous thinkers and > designers). So I decided to leave out inheritance as a built-in > feature until I understood it better. > </blockquote> > > This conservative approach seems apt for the situation of classes and > inheritance in ECMAScript. If classes are to be merely sugar for other > language features (purely ES3.1 features?), we don't know exactly what > those other parts are and have no experience seeing what is possible > with those, then we certainly don't understand how inheritance fits > into either the desugared or sugar pictures. It could be that the > boilerplate that inheritance tries to solve is not a big problem as I > tried to show in the observer pattern example. It seems reasonable to > follow Alan's conservative approach before jumping into the deep water > of inheritance which has a variable track records. > > Peter > _______________________________________________ > Es3.x-discuss mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es3.x-discuss > -- erik _______________________________________________ Es-discuss mailing list [email protected] https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss

