On Apr 29, 2010, at 7:55 PM, Douglas Crockford wrote:
On 11:59 AM, Brendan Eich wrote:
On Apr 29, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Mark S. Miller wrote:
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Brendan Eich <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The JSConf audience poll did provoke someone to suggest "fun",
and I mentioned "fn" (the ML family languages have both). Two
letters or three might be few enough, and avoid the line-noise
and can't-type-Greek issues.
Neither "fun" nor "fn" are reserved identifiers. They are short
ascii identifiers, so conflicts are virtually guaranteed. I don't
see any realistic way to make them keywords without either
breaking the web or (in your terminology) raising the opt-in
migration tax too high. Am I missing something?
No, you're not missing anything, except possibly this: the same
objection applies to lambda (λ) and florin (ƒ).
On the other hand, with opt-in versioning, developers might find
that the migration tax is not that bad, for any of these including
"fn" and perhaps even "fun".
If there is a painless way to introduce short keywords that
weren't previously reserved, I'd love to understand that.
It's all about the low odds of ƒ or (I have to go copy and paste
now) λ or fn being used as an identifier. The odds are worse for
fn, even worse for fun, but possibly still low enough.
But again, any Unicode identifier however short (if not already
reserved) is an incompatible change from ES1-5.
/be
I think we should be focused on solving real problems. We have some
significant problems to solve, and 'function' being 8 letters isn't
one of them.
I'll take that as a rubber-stamp +1 then ;-)
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