I have not seen the post before, but it perfectly expresses my concerns. I still do think though that if breaking backwards compatibility is on the table solving "syntactic noise" issue is not such a bad idea even if it means changing a skin it makes devs more aware of a change.
Both skulpt & coffee are good toys, but don't think it's practical to use them for a real apps. BTW blessing one of the coding styles as Dmitry suggested may be a successful attempt for solving at least half of the issue. On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 05:16, Brendan Eich <[email protected]> wrote: > It's not practical to change the "skin" of JS this radically, but OTOH > browser JS VMs are getting so fast that it *is* practical to compile > CoffeeScript and other nearby source languages to JS. Heck, even Python -> > JS in the browser is looking good, ignoring the standard library issue ( > http://skulpt.org/). > > Your point, summarized as "Coding Style as a Failure of Language > Design", was made recently by Robert O'Callahan. Perhaps you saw it? > > http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roc/archives/2010/07/coding_style_as.html > > It is IMHO a good argument for language designers operating without > backward compatibility and installed base constraints to consider. > > /be > > On Aug 27, 2010, at 3:15 AM, Irakli Gozalishvili wrote: > > Hi, > > Please don't be too aggressive in replies, I know it's too ambitious & may > not lead to anything, but I still want to give it a try and suggest to: > > Employ some of the decisions that being made with coffee script & python in > order to over all the wars regarding: 2 space vs 4 space vs tabs, where to > put braces, whether or not use optional semicolons. All the style > guidelines, just hurt developers, who have to switch mentally every time > they work on a project with a different style guides. Besides if I follow > correctly it's being agreed to make backwards incompatible syntax changes in > new version of ECMAScript :) > > As a side note, I'd like to also mention that coffee script managed to > reduce verbosity so match, making writing code so much better experience! > > Regards! > -- > Irakli Gozalishvili > Web: http://www.jeditoolkit.com/ > Address: 29 Rue Saint-Georges, 75009 Paris, France<http://goo.gl/maps/3CHu> > _______________________________________________ > es-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss > > >
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