On Sep 3, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Mark S. Miller wrote:

> From email on this thread and from private email I've received, I'm a bit 
> worried that my earlier message was misunderstood.

I wrote "covert channel" too, when inviiting you to reply -- sorry about that, 
you're right that the side channel is the bigger worry.

> I agree that we're not going to secure JavaScript well enough to solve the 
> covert channel problem.

(Will anything solve that problem, short of the kind of communication 
technology described in science fiction, e.g the phones in 
http://www.amazon.com/Dead-Lines-Bear-Greg/dp/0345448375 ?)


> (Fortunately, regarding the WeakMap enumerability question, we seem to have 
> consensus to stick with non-enumerability on other grounds anyway. But this 
> side channel question will reappear so we may as well understand the limits 
> on how well we can resist them.)

Leo does not concur and I suspect others (Arv) agree with him.

IMHO Leo's point about weak listener maps and FRP is a good challenge to the 
consensus that you, Erik Corry, and I among others do share. I need to read 
Greg Cooper's thesis and medidate on our myriad C++ weak listener use cases 
before replying further.

/be

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