Mark Does this have some parallels with channel messaging (http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/comms.html#channel-messaging)?
Sent from my iPad On Jan 28, 2011, at 7:43 PM, "Mark S. Miller" <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Kris Zyp <[email protected]> wrote: > > Exactly. On the NodeJS mailing list there is constant, never-ending stream of > messages from (generally new users) who are complaining about the pain of > callbacks (not from typing some API, I have yet to ever get a request for > shorter syntax for node-promise, which is one of the commonly used helper > libraries). In fact I think someone recently created another continuation > library (in the same vein as Narrative, generators, etc.), continuing to add > to our collective experience in this area. I could look up the address if > desired. > > Please do. More collective experience is good. > > However, I think your comparisons show your missing the point of this > strawman. AFAIK, all the systems you cite, including node-promise which > implements CommonJS promises/A and your proposed use of shallow > continuations, are all only for helping express asynchrony within a single > vat. None of these are about supporting communication to objects in separate > or remote vats. So none of these should be taken as competitors for this > strawman. This strawman includes means for spawning new vats, talking between > the spawner and the spawned, and an underspecified-at-the-moment (but see > qcomm's Q.makePromise()) pluggable extension point for extending this > semantics over networks. > > I expect this is mostly my own fault by giving the strawman the title > "concurrency", which emphasizes the wrong first point. > > Vat's, are asynchronously coupled to each other by remote references that can > fail. This helps vats be units of transparent distribution as well as > concurrency, partial failure, partition, and preemptive termination. With > appropriate support, they can also become the unit of migration, separate > persistence, and resource control. > > I have received much helpful private correspondence suggesting many other > needed clarifications and improvements to that strawman page (thanks). Having > announced "ready for discussion" before I'd intended, please everyone indulge > me while I temporarily withdraw this page in order to make these suggested > improvements and shifts of emphasis. I will re-declare this "ready" soon. I > promise ;). > > > Thanks, > Kris > > > > -- > Cheers, > --MarkM > _______________________________________________ > es-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss
_______________________________________________ es-discuss mailing list [email protected] https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss
