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On 18.02.2011 11:51, Dmitry A. Soshnikov wrote:
Hello,

As is known, indirect `eval` evaluates in the global context (this note is not for the TC-39 group of course, but for all other who read this list). But what is the big rationale of that indirect eval is allowed to create a global binding even _regardless_ the fact that the global code is _strict_?

I.e.:

"use strict";

eval("var x = 10;"); // direct
this.eval("var y = 20;"); // indirect

console.log(typeof x, typeof y); // "undefined", "number"

The only _practical_ rationale of the indirect `eval` regarding the strict mode is that via its call it's possible to get the global object via `this` value from any place (since just returning `this` won't work as it's set to `undefined` in a simple function call):

var global = (function () { return this; })(); // ES3, non-strict ES5 way

var global = ("indirect", eval)("this"); // strict ES5

Which else practical/theoretical/academical rationales of the indirect eval are? And what again the rationale that it's allowed to create the global binding (i.e. not in the "sandbox" environment, but reusing `VariableEnvironment` of the "caller" -- not a direct caller though, but the adjusted -- the global scope)? Could you clarify this, I want to give a more concrete explanations for my readers.

P.S.:

Just recently Allen brought a good addition (well, a reminder even better to say, since I also wanted to add it ;) to mention this subtle case with indirect eval and it's ability to affect the global environment regardless the strict mode: http://dmitrysoshnikov.com/ecmascript/es5-chapter-2-strict-mode/#comment-5831

It's without doubts a very needed addition and as is said -- a subtle case, but still -- what are the exact rationales for that? I mentioned this case in Allen's blog before, and though that this is a bug of the spec -- http://www.wirfs-brock.com/allen/posts/39#comment-46

Allen answered that this is related with complexity of implementation, here:

"An /indirect/ eval called from strict code is strict only if the eval code explicit contains an "use strict;" directive. It does not "inherit" the strictness of its caller.

Every call is potentially an indirect eval call. If the strictness of indirect evals depended upon the strictness of the caller then we would have to pass the strictness of the caller through every call. That would require either an extra implicit parameter on every call or the ability to a callee to examine the call stack to to determine the strictness of its caller. We don't want to force this on implementations."

The basic idea is seems clear -- we need to pass a flag that the code of an inner function (from which indirect `eval` was called) is strict, but if the _global_ code is strict -- and indirect `eval` always evaluates in the global context, and moreover, if the global code is strict that means _any_ inner function (except those which are created via `Function` constructor and have no own strictness) is automatically also strict:

"use strict";

(function foo() {
  // this code is also strict
  ("indirect", eval)("var x = 10;");
})();

console.log(x); // 10

is it also required to pass special flags to handle this case?

Thanks,
Dmitry.

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