I also prototyped this idea mainly for node. Also, I figured out a hack with a label, that make it work for spidermonkey.
Regards -- Irakli Gozalishvili Web: http://www.jeditoolkit.com/ Address: 29 Rue Saint-Georges, 75009 Paris, France <http://goo.gl/maps/3CHu> On Thursday, 2011-09-01 at 20:28 , Dmitry A. Soshnikov wrote: On 31.08.2011 18:38, Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote: On Aug 31, 2011, at 1:57 AM, Dmitry A. Soshnikov wrote: On 30.08.2011 20:39, Allen Wirfs-Brock wrote: On Aug 30, 2011, at 12:39 AM, Dmitry A. Soshnikov wrote: OK, let's up the topic. Seems there are no technical issues in the proposed thing -- we can simply either accept it or not. The question is whether it's needed and sound proposal and the feature to have in ECMAScript. There certainly are technical issues. To start, by making this part of the core language you would be defining a feature that can be used by any application code. For example, a program might choose to encode essential runtime metadata as its "documentation". Because of that possibility, the [[Documentation]] information must always be available at runtime. Minimizers or obfuscators could not remote documentation comments because of the possibility of breaking such programs. Sure, though I don't think that application level code have to be dependent in logic on documentation string. The doc-string is just the _addition for debug_. No more, no less. It's when you use a new lib (my example with Redis's `get` method which should accept callback), you just get this help directly "from here" without going to some websites (which can even be down for this time) and solve the problems much faster. And for minified scripts, I think the option "Remove doc-comments" is the case. When designing language features, a designer always has some specific use cases in mind. But that doesn't restrict users of the language from discovering other use cases. Once a feature is incorporated into a language, implementation have to support all possible use cases, not just the original intended use case. That's why it is important for language designer to think broadly about all conceivable uses and feature interaction when extending a language. Sure, no application is required to have logic dependencies upon the content of a documentation string but once they exist any application could have such dependencies. As a language designers you have to think about the implications of such usages. It isn't good enough to just say that wasn't the intended use of the feature. Yes, of course it's true, we have to consider the most hardcore use-cases of our programs. Well, then I have to think on it, but the first thing which comes in mind -- already mentioned "Remove doc-comments" option for minifiers, i.e. a user himself is responsible for this action. Moreover, minification is again mostly for browser-scripting, where this help(...) functionality isn't so required as it is for the server programming in the console. And for the later case I wrote a simple version of such a pre-processor: https://gist.github.com/1186853 Simple example: /** * sum * @param {Number} x * @param {Number} y * The function of summation. */ function sum(x, y) { return x + y; } /** * multSum * @param {Number} x * @param {Number} y * @param {String} value * The function of calculation. */ function calculate(x, y, value) { // comment print(value + ": " + sum(x, y)); } // ---------- Test documentation ---------- // Result: // Help on "sum" function: // // /** // * sum // * @param {Number} x // * @param {Number} y // * The function of summation. // */ help(sum); // Help on "calculate" function: // // /** // * multSum // * @param {Number} x // * @param {Number} y // * @param {String} value // * The function of calculation. // */ help(calculate); // ---------- Test guards ---------- sum(1, 2); // 3, OK calculate(1, 2, "value"); // value: 3 sum(1, "2"); // TypeError: "y" must be a number calculate(1, 2, 4); // TypeError: "value" must be a string Dmitry. _______________________________________________ es-discuss mailing list [email protected] https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss -- Regards -- Irakli Gozalishvili Web: http://www.jeditoolkit.com/ Address: 29 Rue Saint-Georges, 75009 Paris, France <http://goo.gl/maps/3CHu>
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