John J Barton wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Brendan Eich<[email protected]>  wrote:
Kris Kowal wrote:
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Brendan Eich<[email protected]>
wrote:
I'm not sure what the problem is -- I read the old thread, and noticed
the
solution:
var global = Function("return this")();
This is good for any code mode, strict or non-strict. Does CSP ban
Function
as well as eval?
CSP does forbid the Function constructor, by the edict “Code will not
be created from strings”.

http://www.w3.org/TR/CSP/ Section 4.2 “If unsafe-eval is not allowed…”
Sure, makes sense (I think I even knew that once -- have to catch up on CSP
when I have some time, next millennium :-P).

CSP creates another JS environment by banning certain JS features.

Ya I know (Mozilla started CSP), I was just being slow there ;-).

Is it common to want an expression, usable in any context (non-strict,
strict, CSP, deep in a function nest with potentially many names in scope,
some of which might shadow globals), that evaluates to "the current global
object"?

I guess the purpose of "global" is to document dependency on the JS
global objects but not on the rest of the global objects attached to
|window|.

Mark's point overrides. If someone needs the global, there's a capability in non-SES JS: it must be handled carefully, though. That's the non-silly part of the non-problem I was describing :-|.

(To your earlier question about the 'problem', my problem is simply to
use some else's JS code in a CSP environment. It uses the eval form. I
need to convince them of an alternative. But it seems like this will
be a common problem, hence my post).

I'm not sure how common. Globals are considered harmful for good reason.

JS libraries do things like

(funciton (global) {
   // all the code here
})(this);

and that works, as well as the brute force

var global = this;

approach. But one must take care not to shadow the name.

Perhaps that is the reason for the funky construct,
  var global = ("global", eval)("this");
http://perfectionkills.com/global-eval-what-are-the-options/

That's for inside a function. The comma-expression eval callee is to force indirect eval, which evaluates global code.

That pattern does not help avoid shadowing of names, of course. Non-strict 
outer code could even shadow 'eval' and make that code do other than what's 
expected. My point about shadowing was not meant to encourage a shadow-proof 
name for the global object, though.

Really, if you need the global, you can save 'this' at top level in a var you create, or 
pass it down to a function call. I know this does not help local needs for "the 
global object", but I suspect those are rare and should be recast anyway (Mark's 
point).

/be

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