On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Andreas Rossberg <[email protected]>wrote:

> On 6 December 2012 05:05, Rick Waldron <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Again, I reject the notion that "someone might screw up" is a valid
> argument
> > for this, or any, discussion. It's one thing to be aware of the potential
> > for misuse, but entirely another to succumb to "fear driven design".
>
> "Fear driven design" is pejorative.


I'll own that, my apologies.


> The argument really is about the
> ability to do local reasoning as much as possible, which is a *very*
> valid concern, especially when reading somebody else's code using
> somebody else's library.
>
> I agree with other voices in this thread that in general, returning
> 'this' rather is an anti pattern.


The evidence I've brought to this discussion shows that the most widely
used and depended upon libraries heavily favor the pattern.



> You can get away with it if you
> limit it to very few well-known library functions,


We established a criteria for built-ins, I don't think we should be using
"return this" by default, but indeed we should where it will be an
expressive benefit.

https://gist.github.com/4219024


> but I doubt that
> blessing such style in the std lib does help that cause.
>
> /Andreas
>
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