Hi,
Le 18/12/2012 18:08, Brendan Eich a écrit :
Mark S. Miller wrote:
That could work, but because of its complexity, I'm leaning back
towards the "configurable data property that refuses to be
configured" approach. Is there a problem with that? It self-hosts fine.
Certainly this is the simplest solution. It has a slight smell, but no
worse than the others'!
In an earlier message [1] I suggested that "enumerable" was more of a
convention than an actual semantics. Indeed, neither host objects nor
upcoming proxies are expected anything when it comes to "enumerable".
However, a script can have some expectations that a property defined
and/or reflected as enumerable: true will show up in for-in and
Object.keys while won't if enumerable: false.
One idea to reduce the smell of configurable-yet-non-deletable
properties would be to add a new "nonDeletable" attribute (I'm not happy
with the negation, but can't find a better wording). Just to clarify,
this attribute doesn't need to be defined on every property of every
object, only in cases where one could expect configurable:false for the
[dontDelete] part, but configurable is actually true for other reasons.
In our case, this attribute would be relevant for both WindowProxy
global var/functions and [Unforgeable] properties of the same object.
This way, "host objects" and proxies have a convention when they want to
express to the code that interact with them that a property can't be
removed by use of the "delete" operator, but the property may disappear
by other means (in the case of WindowProxy, change of the underlying
window).
Defining the "nonDeletable" attribute (or whatever better name) is a
decision that could be fully made on the WebIDL side, because it defines
host objects and host objects can define their own properties, but I
think it's important the convention emerges from the ECMAScript side.
David
[1] https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2012-December/027200.html
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