Argh, why must mailman archive + copy/paste result in unreadably long lines. Here's the citation again (from https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2011-August/016188.html):

178 nor Normal All allen at wirfs-brock.com CONF --- Must settle scoping details for block-scoped bindings

Much discussion here. The issue is whether let and const bindings hoist to block top, or start a new implicit scope (the let* or, let's call it, C++ rule). The prior work was nicely diagrammed by Waldemar in:

https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2008-October/007807.html

Quoting from Waldemar's message (note the future-proofing for guards):

--- begin quote ---

There are four ways to do this:
A1. Lexical dead zone. References textually prior to a definition in the same block are an error. A2. Lexical window. References textually prior to a definition in the same block go to outer scope. B1. Temporal dead zone. References temporally prior to a definition in the same block are an error. B2. Temporal window. References temporally prior to a definition in the same block go to outer scope.

Let's take a look at an example:

let x = "outer";
function g() {return "outer"}

{
  g();
  function f() { ... x ... g ... g() ... }
  f();
  var t = some_runtime_type;
  const x:t = "inner";
  function g() { ... x ... }
  g();
  f();
}

B2 is bad because then the x inside g would sometimes refer to "outer" and sometimes to "inner".

A1 and A2 introduce extra complexity but doesn't solve the problem. You'd need to come up with a value for x to use in the very first call to g(). Furthermore, for A2 whether the window occurred or not would also depend on whether something was a function or not; users would be surprised that x shows through the window inside f but g doesn't.

That leaves B1, which matches the semantic model (we need to avoid referencing variables before we know their types and before we know the values of constants).

--- end quote ---

In the September 2010 meeting, however, we took a wrong turn (my fault for suggesting it, but in my defense, just about everyone did prefer it -- we all dislike hoisting!) away from hoisted let and const bindings, seemingly achieving consensus for the C++ rule.

Allen, it turned out, did not agree, and he was right. Mixing non-hoisting (the C++ rule) with hoisting (function in block must hoist, for mutual recursion "letrec" use-cases and to match how function declarations at body/program level hoist) does not work. In the example above, g's use of x either refers to an outer x for the first call to g() in the block, but not the second in the block (and various for the indirect call via f()) -- dynamic scope! -- or else the uses before |const x|'s C++-style implicit scope has opened must be errors (early or not), which is indistinguishable from hoisting.

So at last week's meeting, we finally agreed to the earlier rules: all block-scoped bindings hoist to top of block, with a temporal dead zone for use of let and const before *iniitalization*.

The initialization point is also important. Some folks wondered if we could not preserve var's relative simplicity: var x = 42; is really var x; x = 42, and then the var hoists (this makes for insanity within 'with', which recurs with 'let' in block vs. 'var' of same name in inner block -- IIRC we agreed to make such vars that hoist past same-named let bindings be early errors).

With var, the initialization is just an assignment expression. A name use before that assignment expression has been evaluated results in the default undefined value of the var, assuming it was fresh. There is no read and write barrier requirement, as there is (in general, due to closures) for the temporal dead zone semantics.

But if we try to treat let like var, then let and const diverge. We cannot treat const like var and allow any assignment as "initialization", and we must forbid assignments to const bindings -- only the mandatory initializer in the declaration can initialize. Trying to allow the "first assignment to a hoisted const" to win quickly leads to two or more values for a single const binding:

{
  x = 12;
  if (y) return x;
  const x = 3;
  ...
}

The situation with let is constrained even ignoring const. Suppose we treat let like var, but hoisted to block top instead of body/program top, with use before set reading undefined, or in an alternative model that differs from var per temporal dead zone, throwing. So:

{
  print(x);
  x = 12;
  let x;
}

would result in either print being called with undefined or an error on the use of x before it was set by the assignment expression-statement -- those are the two choices given hoisting.

But then:

{
  x = 12;
  print(x);
  let x;
}

would result in either 12 being printed or an error being thrown assigning to x before its declaration was evaluated.

Any mixture of error with non-error (printing undefined or 12) is inconsistent. One could defend throwing in the use-before-assignment case, but it's odd. And throwing in both cases is the earlier consensus semantics of temporal dead zone with a distinct state for lack of initialization (even if the initialization is implicit, e.g., in a declaration such as let x; being evaluated). Here "initialization" is distinguished from assignment expressions targeting the binding.

Trying to be like var, printing undefined or 12, is possible but future-hostile to guards and gratuitously different from const:

{
  x = 12;
  const G = ...;
  let x ::G = "hi";
}

We want to be future-proof for guards, and even more important: we want to support *refactoring from let to const*. Ergo, only temporal dead zone with its barriers is tenable.

There remains an open issue: without closures obscuring analysis, it is easy to declare use before initialization within the direct expression-statement children of a given block to be early errors, rather than runtime errors:

{
  x = 12;          // can be early error
  print(x);        // can be early error
  function f() {
    return x;      // may or may not be error
  }
  escape(f);       // did this call f?
  let x = 42;
  escape2(f);      // did this call f?
}

Some on TC39 favor normative specification of early errors for the easily-decided cases. Others want runtime-only error checking all around and point out how even the easy cases (within straight-line code in the block's direct expression-statement children) testing that reaches the block will fail fast. The question remains: what if the block is not covered by tests?

Dave Herman brought up the let/var at top level equivalence implemented in SpiderMonkey, specifically in connection with <script> tags. Sketching in pseudo-HTML:

<script type=harmony>
  alert = 12;      // reassign built-in alert
</script>

<script type=harmony>
  let alert = 13;  // shadow built-in alert
  var quux = 14;   // this.quux = 14
  let quux = 15;   // alternative: in scope for later scripts?
</script>

<script>
  alert(quux);
</script>

Dave's point was not to commend the SpiderMonkey equating of let and var at top level, but to observe that if "let is the new var", then depending on how multiple successive script elements' contents are scoped, you may still need to use var in Harmony -- let won't be enough, if it binds only within the containing <script> element's scope.

Recall that Harmony removes the global (window in browsers) object from the scope chain, replacing it with a lexical environment with (generally) writable bindings. Each script starts with a fresh lexical environment, although it might be nested (see next paragraph).

For scripts that do not opt into Harmony, there's no issue. The global object is on the scope chain and it is used serially by successive script elements.

The question for Harmony scripts boils down to: should successive Harmony scripts nest lexical scopes in prior scripts' scopes, like matryoshka dolls? Or should each script opted into Harmony be its own module-like scope, in which case to propagate bindings to later scripts, one would have to

<script type=harmony>
  export let quux = 14; // available here and in later scripts
</script>

This remains an open question in TC39. Some liked the explicit 'export' requirement, the implicit module scope. Others objected that migrating code would expect the nested semantics, which was not inherently evil or unsafe.

--- end of block scope discussion ---

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