Le 07/05/2013 18:30, Andrea Giammarchi a écrit :
You did not answer my question Mark: what is the role of TC39, embrace "whatever non-standard crossbrowser thing" or filter ideas proposing better alternatives/solutions when necessary in order to have a solid foundation instead of having Object.defineProperty({get}) AND __defineGetter__ from the past?

This is a concern of mine, and I'd like to hear a clear statement about this, thanks.
I'm not Mark and not part of TC39, but I'll give it a try.
I believe TC39 position is in between your 2 propositions. Aiming at improving on a solid basis while still codefying de facto standards when necessary (that is when it's in some implementations and other implementors are pushed by content to implement it).

I don't get why you're being so hard on TC39. The WHATWG has been doing *exactly* that for years now; looking at what several browsers implement and is used in content and codifying it. Beyond the hype, large parts of HTML5 are de facto standards.

David
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