Le 03/08/2013 20:44, Brendan Eich a écrit :
David Bruant wrote:
I don't see the benefit of that against a file/function-wise directive.
Lexical means block in the modern Harmony era.
Excellent.
For both null and the new value types, I'm still unclear on why could
devs would choose something different than the default. I feel the
incentives can only [weigh] in favor of keeping the default. I'm
interested in what other devs think.
I'm not sure what you mean re: "new value types". They have no
"default" and "object" fails usability and useful-invariant requirements.
I need to re-read the proposal more in depth.
For null, are you sure people won't choose to "repair" this "ES
regret" ? :-P
I'm doubtful for myself, but I'm really interested in what other devs
think (but maybe we're too deep in thread nesting to have a big dev
audience any longer :-p)
This is quite a challenge to rewrite code to repair this regret. Maybe
people have code that do (typeof x === typeof y) and expect null to come
as an object. People coming from a Java background feel like typeof null
=== "object" is nothing but normal. The fact that
Object.getPrototypeOf(Object.prototype) returns null also encourages
this line of reasoning.
I also recall that for one specific case [1] (oh! the indentation is
awful!), I needed to play with the value returned by typeof (so doing
more than just typeof x === y). That's very specific, but that would
take time for me to transition to the repaired version of typeof with
the same level of confidence. Just to save 20 chars, that doesn't sound
like trouble I'd care to go into.
That said, I recently worked on a project and I reviewed a pull request
with "typeof x === 'object'" to ask to replace to 'Object(x) === x'. I
guess it would be nice if handling null didn't require encyclopedic
knowledge of the language. But that's an opt-in and as of 2013, maybe
2014, I imagine that those who will know about how to fix typeof with
the opt-in, will also know why it's there and how to avoid trouble in
their own code.
Sorry for the hot and cold. Trying to share all relevant experience as a
developer.
David
[1] (this line and 3 lines below)
https://github.com/DavidBruant/ObjectViz/blob/ae4000925542f9393dc456be83566afa95bb35df/js/ObjectOwnViz.js#L92
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