Le 11/10/2013 01:19, Mark S. Miller a écrit :
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Rick Waldron <waldron.r...@gmail.com
<mailto:waldron.r...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 6:26 PM, David Bruant <bruan...@gmail.com
<mailto:bruan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,
The question of thenables came back on Mozilla's Bugzilla [1]
(see comment 29 & 30) with a decent share of skepticism that I
share too.
I'm sorry I didn't go through all the promises discussions,
but what's the rationale of supporting thenables? I fear this
feature won't be necessary 2 or 3 years after native promises
ship. For sure, it's of no use to those who only use native
promises.
I read from the meeting notes that it was pretty much the only
point of debate and a long one.
There was no long debate about thenables, only two requests for
clarification of their meaning and one request for explanation of
their backing store mechanism, all with immediate responses. The
notes reflect exactly that.
yes.
I can't speak for Anne, with regard to comment#30, but I don't
recall him sharing any kind of skepticism during the conversation.
Hopefully he will clarify for us.
Anne can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see any skepticism
expressed in comment 30
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=879245#c30>. It's a
reply to Jonas' 29. Interleaving the two:
Jonas: So the spec ended up with support for thenables after all?
Rather than just doing branding :(
Anne: Yes
Jonas: I take it in order to be compatible with currently existing
libraries?
Anne: yes
Jonas: I guess if that's what TC39 decided on then that's what we
should do. But I'm definitely saddened by it. Like you say, the
past is shorter than the future.
Anne: agreed.
I would have given Jonas the same answers. We agreed to thenable
assimilation for reasons that have been endlessly discussed. During
the process, everyone deeply involved always wished thenable
assimilation wasn't needed. But it is what we agreed to. We declared
an official TC39 consensus. There are now several implementation
efforts already proceeding based on that consensus -- probably many
more than we know of. This is not skepticism. It is agreeing that
"that's what we should do" while sharing Jonas' sadness.
Alright, let's do this then. Sorry for re-hashing.
Thanks for your answers,
David
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