Transitioning the native API to modules is more of a proposed long term goal of this proposal. It'll take years to fully realize. On Sep 22, 2014 3:10 PM, "Isiah Meadows" <[email protected]> wrote:
> @Brendan I'm aware of that pattern. For now, I'm more concerned about the > option of modules. It would be nice to import the standard library features > you need, and if, for some reason, one of the API natives get overwritten, > you have a fallback. > On Sep 22, 2014 1:18 PM, "Brendan Eich" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Tab Atkins Jr. wrote: >> >>> OnMon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Domenic Denicola >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> > From: es-discuss [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>>> Of Isiah Meadows >>>> >>>>> >> I know this would break a lot of backwards compatibility >>>>> completely, so this is purely hypothetical, and I expect this to not have >>>>> a >>>>> realistic chance anytime soon. >>>>> >>>> > >>>> > Anything that breaks backward compatibility will not have a chance, >>>> realistic or otherwise,*ever*. >>>> >>> >>> To square this with Matthew's response, the original idea was to >>> *also* expose the core functionality as modules, to give you the >>> ability to grab "clean" versions of any standard functions you wanted, >>> while the preexisting global versions would still be there. >>> >> >> Right! >> >> Isaih, this is good news: you can't insist on removing stuff, but if you >> put the cleanups and better organization in new clothes, the old drab ones >> will fade into disuse (even if they don't ever go away). >> >> This is kind of a "law of the Web." It turns out compat does break, and >> no one notices (much), over very long timeframes. At least, we saw this >> going from the early Web to the modern days, with a few things (corner >> cases in JS and CSS table layout). But these were never predictable, or >> major. >> >> With strict-by-default modules, we can hope for 'with' to whither away >> over a decade. I wouldn't bet on it, since strict mode is still opt-in and >> will be for <script>, forever. >> >> /be >> >
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