On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Dmitry Soshnikov <[email protected]
> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Claude Pache <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>> Le 7 oct. 2014 à 23:43, Dmitry Soshnikov <[email protected]> a
>> écrit :
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Dmitry Soshnikov
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > I see. Actually it doesn't work, your're correct, since
>>> > `Array.prototype.map` does preserve the kind (at least in the latest
>>> draft).
>>>
>>> Hmm, per Rick's earlier email and
>>> <
>>> https://github.com/rwaldron/tc39-notes/blob/c61f48cea5f2339a1ec65ca89827c8cff170779b/es6/2013-01/jan-30.md#revising-the-array-subclassing-kind-issue
>>> >,
>>> Array#map (used by a subclass) doesn't preserve the subclass's type;
>>> it always returns an Array.
>>>
>>> > And the `UInt32Array.from(...)` would be consuming a nodeList, not an
>>> array.
>>> > Will the `nodeList.map(node => parseInt(node.value, 10));` by itself
>>> > actually work then?
>>>
>>> If .map() is inherited from Array, and thus not type-preserving, yes,
>>> it'll work.
>>>
>>>
>> Yes, it is preserving (probably was changed since that previous
>> discussion), see (9) in
>> http://people.mozilla.org/~jorendorff/es6-draft.html#sec-array.prototype.map.
>> Will a simple map to `node.value` on a `NodeList` work with the preserving
>> `Array#map`?
>>
>>
>> So, a `SortOfArray.from` (with a mapping) is finally less confusing than
>> a  `SortOfArray#map`, for you don't have to look at the doc in order to
>> determine the type of the result... :-p
>>
>>
> Also related, and came on Twitter just not:
> https://twitter.com/DmitrySoshnikov/status/519964146637737986
>
> The mapping function from `Array.from` considers holes (from the new TC39
> "policy"), but `Array#map` does not.
>
> I guess this doc on `Array.from` from MDN [1] should be fixed then:
>
> > More clearly, Array.from(obj, mapFn, thisArg) is the same as
> Array.from(obj).map(mapFn, thisArg), except that it does not create an
> intermediate array.
>
> Since not only they are "the same" (as we confuse/substitute pre- and
> post- mapping), but also the mapping function itself behaves differently.
>
> [1]
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Array/from
>
>
Never mind, as Rick and Allen clarified, they will produce the same arrays,
because of behavior of `Array.from` which as a result already has a hole
converted to explicit `undefined` value. Here is an example:
http://gyazo.com/4709305f3bde1c8ce0b02d2071a99e7f

Dmitry
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