> On Sep 4, 2018, at 12:32 AM, Darien Valentine <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> My understanding was that, in theory, using `Reflect` as your handler object
> should mean the behavior of all the trapped operations should be the same as
> it would have been for an ordinary object. This may be an incorrect
> assumption on my part (are there other examples like this?), but it does seem
> desirable for that to be true.
Yes, this is surprising (at least to me) and slightly disturbing.
At one point, early in the development of ES6 the draft spec. had a
[[OriginalDescriptor]] field (that may not be the actual name I used) in
internal PropertyDescrptors that carried along a reference to the original
descriptor object from which the PropertyDescriptor was derived. When the Proxy
traps needed to reify a PropertyDescriptor as an object it would use the
[[OriginalDescriptor]] if it had a value. The reason for having
[[OriginalDescriptor]] wasn’t because of inheriting from %ObjectPrototype%. It
was to enable Proxies to extend property descriptor objects with additional
attributes (for example, imagine a public: <boolean> attribute) that the Proxy
handler could then interpret.
[[OriginalDescriptor]] was removed from the spec. after some implementors
pushed back with cncerns about the added complexity and skepticism about the
value of the added utility.
> I’m curious about whether changes to these algorithms to alter this behavior
> in some way would be web-safe.
Unlikely, part of the original intent of the descriptor object design was that
prototypal inheritance could be used compose descriptor objects (BTW, there are
es-discuss threads about these inheritance issues far older than the one you
referenced). consider:
function friendlyDefaults (desc) {return Object.setPrototypeOf(desc,
{enumerable: true, configurable: true, writable: true})};
var obj = Object.create(Object.prototype, {
p1: friendlyDefaults({value: 1}),
p2: friendlyDefaults({value: 2}),
p3: friendlyDefaults({value: 3})
});
I won’t want to bet that nobody on the web has ever used prototypal inheritance
to construct their property descriptors.
Similarly, I won’t want to bet that nobody on the web has written a Proxy trap
handler where they have invoked the hasOwnProperty method on a reified
descriptor object.
I think that bringing back the [[OriginalDescriptor]] concept might be
web-safe, but good luck on convincing implementors that this problem is worth
the effort. (I actually think, the overhead would not be so bad because
implementations don’t actually create PropertyDescriptors in normal operation.
It is only operations that start with a Object.* or Reflect.* operation that
create the round tripping concern.)
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