You slightly missed my point Peter ... put and set are completely different
and it wouldn't be awkward to have them both, neither I'm suggesting to put
in annex b set or put: both have use cases, both are valid, both add
values, both are different.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 7:43 PM Peter Hoddie <[email protected]> wrote:

> we have `substr` and `slice` as well that do slightly different things
> with slightly different names and there are valid use cases/simplification
> for both string methods
>
>
> substr is in Annex B for web compatibility.
>
> The specification notes:
>
> All of the language features and behaviours specified in this annex have
> one or more undesirable characteristics and in the absence of legacy usage
> would be removed from this specification
>
> And:
>
> These features are not considered part of the core ECMAScript language.
> Programmers should not use or assume the existence of these features and
> behaviours when writing new ECMAScript code. ECMAScript implementations are
> discouraged from implementing these features unless the implementation is
> part of a web browser or is required to run the same legacy
> ECMAScript code that web browsers encounter.
>
> Our XS engine for emebdded followed this guidance: we didn't implement
> strstr for a long time. Alas, developers from the web are so accustomed to
> having it that we eventually gave in and provided it. Some conformance
> details here:
>
>
> https://github.com/Moddable-OpenSource/moddable/blob/public/documentation/xs/XS%20Differences.md#conformance
>
> -- Peter
>
> On Oct 12, 2018, at 9:54 AM, Andrea Giammarchi <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> I think having both `set` and `put` would be actually awesome, we have
> `substr` and `slice` as well that do slightly different things with
> slightly different names and there are valid use cases/simplification for
> both string methods.
>
> AFAIK Allen mentioned it'd be awkward to have put too, but I hope others
> agree it would solve most issues developers have with constants and one/off
> WeakMap setups which is the most common use case with weak maps, weak sets,
> and not weak counterparts.
>
> Regards
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 3:57 AM Jack Lu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> It makes sense for a `put` to return the value, but it's awkward to say
>> `put` when you want to get a value.
>> And I'm fond of your proposal of `put`.
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