Kai,

Thanks for the feedback and the real world example.

Most of my examples have been focused on simple cases.  The full example is something that would support the following style:

```
    const food = switch (animal) {
      case Animal.DOG, Animal.CAT => {
        // larger block expression
        // which spans multiple lines

        return "dry food";
      }
      case Animal.TIGER, Animal.LION, Animal.CHEETA => {
        // larger block expression
        // which spans multiple lines

        return "fresh meat";
      }
      case Animal.ELEPHANT => "hay";
      default => { throw new Error("Unsuppored Animal"); };
    };
```

The basic things that I'm focusing on are:

* The evaluation of the switch is an expression that returns a value
* The case statement doesn't fall through and supports multiple descriminators * Use arrow expressions to return values, these can be either simple values or blocks returning a value.
* Syntax that is quickly recognizable with existing JS patterns


On 2/28/19 1:04 AM, kai zhu wrote:

This is unmaintainable --

    const x = v === 'foo' ? 1 : v === 'bar' ? 3 : v === 'baz' ? 6 : 99;

i feel proposed switch-expressions are no more readable/maintainable than ternary-operators, if you follow jslint's style-guide.  i'll like to see more convincing evidence/use-case that they are better:

```javascript
/*jslint*/
"use strict";
const v = "foo";
const x = (
    v === "foo"
    ? 1
    : v === "bar"
    ? 3
    : v === "baz"
    ? 6
    : 99
);
```

here's another example from real-world production-code, where switch-expressions probably wouldn't help:

```javascript
$ node -e '
/*jslint devel*/
"use strict";
function renderRecent(date) {
/*
 * this function will render <date> to "xxx ago"
 */
  date = Math.ceil((Date.now() - new Date(date).getTime()) * 0.0001) * 10;
  return (
      !Number.isFinite(date)
      ? ""
      : date < 60
      ? date + " sec ago"
      : date < 3600
      ? Math.round(date / 60) + " min ago"
      : date < 86400
      ? Math.round(date / 3600) + " hr ago"
      : date < 129600
      ? "1 day ago"
      : Math.round(date / 86400) + " days ago"
  );
}

console.log(renderRecent(new Date().toISOString())); // "0 sec ago"
console.log(renderRecent("2019-02-28T05:32:00Z")); // "10 sec ago"
console.log(renderRecent("2019-02-28T05:27:30Z")); // "5 min ago"
console.log(renderRecent("2019-02-28T05:14:00Z")); // "18 min ago"
console.log(renderRecent("2019-02-28T03:27:00Z")); // "2 hr ago"
console.log(renderRecent("2019-02-12T05:27:00Z")); // "16 days ago"
console.log(renderRecent("2018-02-28T05:27:00Z")); // "365 days ago"
'

0 sec ago
10 sec ago
5 min ago
18 min ago
2 hr ago
16 days ago
365 days ago

$
```

On 27 Feb 2019, at 13:12, David Koblas <da...@koblas.com <mailto:da...@koblas.com>> wrote:

Just for folks who might be interested, added a babel-plugin to see what was involved in making this possible.

Pull request available here -- https://github.com/babel/babel/pull/9604

I'm sure I'm missing a bunch of details, but would be interested in some help in making this a bit more real.

Thanks

On 2/26/19 2:40 PM, Isiah Meadows wrote:
You're not alone in wanting pattern matching to be expression-based:

https://github.com/tc39/proposal-pattern-matching/issues/116

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On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 1:34 PM David Koblas <da...@koblas.com> wrote:
Jordan,

Thanks for taking time to read and provide thoughts.

I just back and re-read the pattern matching proposal and it still fails on the basic requirement of being an Expression not a Statement.  The problem that I see and want to address is the need to have something that removes the need to chain trinary expressions together to have an Expression.

This is unmaintainable --

    const x = v === 'foo' ? 1 : v === 'bar' ? 3 : v === 'baz' ? 6 : 99;

This is maintainable, but is less than ideal:

   let x;

   switch (v) {
   case "foo":
     x = 1;
     break;
   case "bar":
     x = 3;
     break;
   case "baz":
     x = 6;
     break;
   default:
     x = 99;
     break;
   }

Pattern matching does shorten the code, but you have a weird default case and also still end up with a loose variable and since pattern matching is a statement you still have a initially undefined variable.

   let x;

   case (v) {
     when "foo" -> x = 1;
     when "bar" -> x = 3;
     when "baz" -> x = 6;
     when v -> x = 99;
   }

Let's try do expressions, I'll leave people's thoughts to themselves.

   const x = do {
     if (v === "foo") { 1; }
     else if (v === "bar") { 3; }
     else if (v === "baz") { 6; }
     else { 99; }
   }

Or as another do expression variant:

   const x = do {
     switch (v) {
       case "foo": 1; break;
       case "bar": 3; break;
       case "baz": 6; break;
       default: 99; break;
     }
   }

And as I'm thinking about switch expressions:

   const x = switch (v) {
     case "foo" => 1;
     case "bar" => 3;
     case "baz" => 6;
     default => 99;
   }

What I really like is that it preserves all of the normal JavaScript syntax with the small change that a switch is allowed in an expression provided that all of the cases evaluate to expressions hence the use of the '=>' as an indicator.  Fundamentally this is a very basic concept where you have a state machine and need it switch based on the current state and evaluate to the new state.

   const nextState = switch (currentState) {
      case ... =>
   }



On 2/25/19 4:00 PM, Jordan Harband wrote:

Pattern Matching is still at stage 1; so there's not really any permanent decisions that have been made - the repo theoretically should contain rationales for decisions up to this point.

I can speak for myself (as "not a champion" of that proposal, just a fan) that any similarity to the reviled and terrible `switch` is something I'll be pushing back against - I want a replacement that lacks the footguns and pitfalls of `switch`, and that is easily teachable and googleable as a different, distinct thing.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 12:42 PM David Koblas <da...@koblas.com> wrote:
Jordan,

One question that I have lingering from pattern matching is why is the syntax so different?  IMHO it is still a switch statement with a variation of the match on the case rather than a whole new construct.

Is there somewhere I can find a bit of discussion about the history of the syntax decisions?

--David


On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Jordan Harband <ljh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Additionally, https://github.com/tc39/proposal-pattern-matching - switch statements are something I hope we'll soon be able to relegate to the dustbin of history.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 6:01 AM David Koblas <da...@koblas.com> wrote:
I quite aware that it’s covered in do expressions. Personally I find do expressions non-JavaScript in style and it’s also not necessarily going to make it into the language.

Hence why I wanted to put out there the idea of switch expressions.

--David


On Feb 25, 2019, at 5:28 AM, N. Oxer <bluesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

This would be covered by do expressions. You could just do:

```js
const category = do {
  switch (...) {
    ...
  };
};
```

On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 10:42 AM David Koblas <da...@koblas.com> wrote:
After looking at a bunch of code in our system noted that there are many
cases where our code base has a pattern similar to this:

     let category = data.category;

     if (category === undefined) {
       // Even if Tax is not enabled, we have defaults for incomeCode
       switch (session.merchant.settings.tax.incomeCode) {
         case TaxIncomeCode.RENTS_14:
           category = PaymentCategory.RENT;
           break;
         case TaxIncomeCode.INDEPENDENT_PERSONAL_SERVICE_17:
           category = PaymentCategory.SERVICES;
           break;
         case TaxIncomeCode.INDEPENDENT_PERSONAL_SERVICE_17:
           category = PaymentCategory.SERVICES;
           break;
       }
     }

I also bumped into a block of go code that also implemented similar
patterns, which really demonstrated to me that there while you could go crazy with triary nesting there should be a better way.  Looked at the pattern matching proposal and while could possibly help looked like it was overkill for the typical use case that I'm seeing. The most relevant example I noted was switch expressions from Java.  When applied to this
problem really create a simple result:

     const category = data.category || switch (setting.incomeCode) {
       case TaxIncomeCode.RENTS_14 => PaymentCategory.RENT;
       case TaxIncomeCode.ROYALTIES_COPYRIGHTS_12 =>
PaymentCategory.ROYALTIES;
       case TaxIncomeCode.INDEPENDENT_PERSONAL_SERVICE_17 =>
PaymentCategory.SERVICES;
       default => PaymentCategory.OTHER;
     }

Note; the instead of using the '->' as Java, continue to use => and with the understanding that the right hand side is fundamentally function. So similar things to this are natural, note this proposal should remove
"fall through" breaks and allow for multiple cases as such.

     const quarter = switch (foo) {
       case "Jan", "Feb", "Mar" => "Q1";
       case "Apr", "May", "Jun" => "Q2";
       case "Jul", "Aug", "Sep" => "Q3";
       case "Oct", "Nov", "Dec" => { return "Q4" };
       default => { throw new Error("Invalid Month") };
     }

Also compared this to the do expression proposal, it also provides a
substantial simplification, but in a way that is more consistent with the existing language.  In one of their examples they provide an example
of the Redux reducer
https://redux.js.org/basics/reducers#splitting-reducers -- this would be
a switch expression implementation.

     function todoApp(state = initialState, action) => switch
(action.type) {
       case SET_VISIBILITY_FILTER => { ...state, visibilityFilter:
action.filter };
       case ADD_TODO => {
           ...state, todos: [
             ...state.todos,
             {
               text: action.text,
               completed: false
             }
           ]
         };
       case TOGGLE_TODO => {
           ...state,
           todos: state.todos.map((todo, index) => (index ===
action.index) ? { ...todo, completed: !todo.completed } : todo)
         };
       default => state;
     }



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On 2/25/19 3:42 PM, David Koblas wrote:

Jordan,

One question that I have lingering from pattern matching is why is the syntax so different?  IMHO it is still a switch statement with a variation of the match on the case rather than a whole new construct.

Is there somewhere I can find a bit of discussion about the history of the syntax decisions?

--David


On Feb 25, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Jordan Harband <ljh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Additionally, https://github.com/tc39/proposal-pattern-matching - switch statements are something I hope we'll soon be able to relegate to the dustbin of history.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 6:01 AM David Koblas <da...@koblas.com> wrote:
I quite aware that it’s covered in do expressions. Personally I find do expressions non-JavaScript in style and it’s also not necessarily going to make it into the language.

Hence why I wanted to put out there the idea of switch expressions.

--David


On Feb 25, 2019, at 5:28 AM, N. Oxer <bluesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

This would be covered by do expressions. You could just do:

```js
const category = do {
  switch (...) {
    ...
  };
};
```

On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 10:42 AM David Koblas <da...@koblas.com> wrote:
After looking at a bunch of code in our system noted that there are many
cases where our code base has a pattern similar to this:

     let category = data.category;

     if (category === undefined) {
       // Even if Tax is not enabled, we have defaults for incomeCode
       switch (session.merchant.settings.tax.incomeCode) {
         case TaxIncomeCode.RENTS_14:
           category = PaymentCategory.RENT;
           break;
         case TaxIncomeCode.INDEPENDENT_PERSONAL_SERVICE_17:
           category = PaymentCategory.SERVICES;
           break;
         case TaxIncomeCode.INDEPENDENT_PERSONAL_SERVICE_17:
           category = PaymentCategory.SERVICES;
           break;
       }
     }

I also bumped into a block of go code that also implemented similar
patterns, which really demonstrated to me that there while you could go crazy with triary nesting there should be a better way.  Looked at the pattern matching proposal and while could possibly help looked like it was overkill for the typical use case that I'm seeing. The most relevant example I noted was switch expressions from Java.  When applied to this
problem really create a simple result:

     const category = data.category || switch (setting.incomeCode) {
       case TaxIncomeCode.RENTS_14 => PaymentCategory.RENT;
       case TaxIncomeCode.ROYALTIES_COPYRIGHTS_12 =>
PaymentCategory.ROYALTIES;
       case TaxIncomeCode.INDEPENDENT_PERSONAL_SERVICE_17 =>
PaymentCategory.SERVICES;
       default => PaymentCategory.OTHER;
     }

Note; the instead of using the '->' as Java, continue to use => and with
the understanding that the right hand side is fundamentally function.
So similar things to this are natural, note this proposal should remove
"fall through" breaks and allow for multiple cases as such.

     const quarter = switch (foo) {
       case "Jan", "Feb", "Mar" => "Q1";
       case "Apr", "May", "Jun" => "Q2";
       case "Jul", "Aug", "Sep" => "Q3";
       case "Oct", "Nov", "Dec" => { return "Q4" };
       default => { throw new Error("Invalid Month") };
     }

Also compared this to the do expression proposal, it also provides a
substantial simplification, but in a way that is more consistent with
the existing language.  In one of their examples they provide an example
of the Redux reducer
https://redux.js.org/basics/reducers#splitting-reducers -- this would be
a switch expression implementation.

     function todoApp(state = initialState, action) => switch
(action.type) {
       case SET_VISIBILITY_FILTER => { ...state, visibilityFilter:
action.filter };
       case ADD_TODO => {
           ...state, todos: [
             ...state.todos,
             {
               text: action.text,
               completed: false
             }
           ]
         };
       case TOGGLE_TODO => {
           ...state,
           todos: state.todos.map((todo, index) => (index ===
action.index) ? { ...todo, completed: !todo.completed } : todo)
         };
       default => state;
     }



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