The surgery consists of the vet exposing the knee joint and knee cap and 
shaving the bone until the knee cap fits....that is why getting the surgery 
done at Stage 1 is so important, less chipping of the joint which means less 
shaving of the bone.  If left untreated the bone chips from the constant 
grinding of the knee cap and joint....and of course the more chips there are 
the more the vet has to shave.  Now, I am going to speak in generalities...I 
have spoken to many people who had initially warned me not to get the surgery 
done...why, because their dogs limped but were overall just fine at stage 1.  
What they failed to realize is that this is progressive and if left untreated 
will only get worse with time. Worse also means more money to get fixed.  I had 
many vets tell me that it had to be done "right now"...it was an "emergency", 
My vet gave us the summer to play and get the extra weight off...it is very 
very important that the dog weigh at the
 lighter end of their weight scale.  Why?  Less pressure on the joint, means 
less grinding of the bone, means easier and faster recovery time....it's like 
an overweight person having knee surgery....much harder for them to recover 
quickly because of the extra weight...the less weight, the less pressure, the 
faster the recovery.  What you also have to be on the lookout for is 
arthritis...as that will go hand in hand.  If Lillie could have been treated 
with anti-inflamatories believe me that is the route I would have taken, 
unfortunately that would not have helped at all as it would not have addressed 
the problem.  The surgery itself is fairly standard as the diagnosis is fairly 
common in smaller dogs.  Hope this sheds some light :) 
 
Marian

--- On Thu, 4/2/09, marian Lyall <[email protected]> wrote:


From: marian Lyall <[email protected]>
Subject: [eskiepeople:8979] Fw: Re: [eskiepeople:8974] Re: Subluxating Patella 
Diagnosis
To: [email protected]
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--- On Thu, 4/2/09, marian Lyall <[email protected]> wrote:


From: marian Lyall <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [eskiepeople:8974] Re: Subluxating Patella Diagnosis
To: [email protected]
Received: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 5:48 AM







In a true subluxating Patella (aka loose knee cap) the bone chips from wear and 
goes from stages 1 through 5 with 5 being the worst and 1 being the best and 
where surgery can do the most good and be the most beneficial.  if left 
untreated the bone just chips away until the dog is lame.  Many owners don't 
get their dog operated on until stages 2 or 3 or further.  There is no relief 
for the pup if it's a true subluxating patellla.  To add to the pups misery 
there can be calcium deposits in the knee joint as in Lil's case which only 
adds to their misery.  You can google subluxating patella...there are some very 
good sites that are very informative.  My vet was wonderful and explained in 
detail what happens at each stage, so I knew exactly what was occuring...
 
Marian

--- On Thu, 4/2/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:


From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [eskiepeople:8974] Re: Subluxating Patella Diagnosis
To: [email protected]
Received: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 4:26 AM




How many of these surgical procedures has your vet done, and what have been the 
outcomes?  Research the surgery, the pros and cons.  Panama was diagnosed with 
the same thing 3 years ago, when he began limping.  They recommended surgery.  
He was given a round of anti- inflamitories and has been fine since.
  katb
  
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Yesterday my concern was getting Kaiser eating, drinking and feeling better... 
Now the other info from the vet is sinking in today. The vet who checked Kaiser 
over yesterday to confirm he'd hurt his neck, said his left back leg has a 
subluxating patella. Anyone who had been through the surgery and recovery want 
to comment? It's not an emergency as he uses all his legs, but I think it could 
be something to be operated sometime this year. She said she'd want to do xrays 
of both back legs under light sedation to compare . She said also that would 
help her estimate cost of what needs to be done, but base estimate is $1100 to 
$1500. I will check around for prices and recommendations to compare. I am 
thinkig this is what Jan and marian have both gone through with one of their 
dogs.

Cindy






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