However,
If a feed PuSHes too often Esme may be inundated with messages. So, instead
of what Ethan concurs with below, should the user have the option to poll
'every 5 mins' or so even if the feed supports PuSH ?
Also, a feed may support PuSH but the hub may breakdown. In that case should
the user be reverted to say, a default of, 'every 5 mins' ?
Maybe we should have two kinds of filter tests.
1. every n mins
2. onpush default every n mins
PubSubHubub will be used only in 2 above, reverting to every n mins if the
feed's hub breaks down (fails)..
In 1 above, only polling will be done even if the feed supports PuSH.
Let me know if this sounds okay...
Imtiaz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ethan Jewett" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: ESME-170 - PubSubHubub
Hi Imtiaz,
I completely agree. If we need to revamp the filter syntax to make
this more clear, we can do that after the PuSH functionality is
already in place.
Thanks!
Ethan
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Imtiaz Ahmed H E <[email protected]>
wrote:
Ethan,
After some initial thoughts otherwise about this, I now feel, for an
RSS/ATOM feed that PuSHes ( PuSH is an acronym for PubSubHubub) we should
just ignore any test (filter) whatsoever and update the user's messages
whenever a feed update is PuSHed to ESME.
Let me know if otherwise...
Imtiaz
----- Original Message ----- From: "Imtiaz Ahmed H E"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: ESME-170 - PubSubHubub
Well, I need to know all the possible kinds of tests (filters
conditions)
that make sense for an RSS/ATOM action.
Imtiaz
----- Original Message ----- From: "Vassil Dichev" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: ESME-170 - PubSubHubub
It's the kind of filter condition which makes the best sense for this
action, at least. What do you want to do?
Vassil
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Imtiaz Ahmed H E <[email protected]>
wrote:
Probably can figure this out, but would someone oblige and tell me...
Is
every nn mins rss-url
the only form/kind of an rss/atom based action ?
Thanks
Imtiaz
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ethan Jewett" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: ESME-170 - PubSubHubub
Yes, several. You can either work on that branch directly, or start
over by submitting a patch with a different branch created (or I can
create one for you - just let me know the name you want). Create a
branch locally by using the instructions at
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch04s02.html
Because the branch has gotten out of sync with trunk, it is difficult
to diff the branch. If you want to see a diff between the branch and
trunk you can do (I kid you not):
svn diff -r985659:980193
That actually gives a diff between those two revisions, so as soon as
someone makes a new commit to either trunk or the branch it will no
longer be valid. To find out what revision a branch is currently on,
you go into the main directory of that branch and run (or so I read on
the internet):
svn log --limit 1
The more manual option, but the option I prefer, is to browse
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/esme/branches/tagandconversationfollow/
Based on the log entires, you can see which files I changed, and the
tool will show you the change history since the branch with diffs, so
you can see fairly easily what was changed.
Ethan
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Imtiaz Ahmed H E
<[email protected]>
wrote:
Ethan,
Okay.
Need to know:-
Have you committed any changes to the pubsubhubub branch i.e.,
different
from what is in trunk ?
Imtiaz
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ethan Jewett"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: ESME-170 - PubSubHubub
Feel free to assign to yourself. You can find my small progress in
the
pubsubhubbub branch in svn. As you can see, I had not gotten far, so
if you can move it along that'd be great.
If you have interim patches of your work on the branch, just post it
to jira and email the lists. I'll try to apply them right away.
Ethan
On Sunday, August 15, 2010, Imtiaz Ahmed H E <[email protected]>
wrote:
Ethan,
This is currently assigned to you. I thought I'll assign this to
myself
and work on it right away...
What do you say, if you aren't working on it ?
I've been looking up the PubSubHubub stuff pointed to by Dick in the
Jira.
The other possibility for me for the release is the
container-based-authentication stuff which Dick said recently in a
mail
from
his vacation will need his spec'ing out on his return which is of
course
any
day now but the spec will take a few days from today...
Imtiaz
