my initial reaction is that you are trying to hard. I haven't paid serious attention to Windows since I switched to Mac about 10 years ago.
What I recall is that all the unix utilities (sh, awk, grep, etc) that you need are included in the Rtools collection. Indeed they are exactly the cygwin utilities. I know that I stopped bothering with cygwin itself once I meade that realization. Then, since all the unix functions are distributed by R, you know that they are fully compatible. I used the CRAN distibuted Windows binary for R. Rich > On Dec 2, 2023, at 12:59, Sparapani, Rodney via ESS-help > <ess-help@r-project.org> wrote: > > Hi Robert: > > Would they allow dual-booting? I’m not saying that you can’t get ESS > to work under Cygwin. On the contrary, it did work at one time so > it certainly can be done. However, that is not currently supported > so you are on your own. But, perhaps there are others in the same > straight-jacket here on ess-help that might be willing to help? > Please speak up if so! > > In regards to WSL, that came out after I permanently switched > to macOS. But, I think it is worth a try too. Since you will be > running pure Linux binaries, then it might work out of the box. > And maybe there are more people here interested in WSL than > Cygwin. Also, the more recent WSL 2 (released in 2019) sounds > like it is more compatible than WSL 1 (released in 2016). > > -- > Rodney Sparapani, Associate Professor of Biostatistics, He/Him/His > Vice President, Wisconsin Chapter of the American Statistical Association > Institute for Health and Equity, Division of Biostatistics > Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee Campus > > From: Robert Lerche <rler...@pacificbiosciences.com> > Date: Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 11:40 AM > To: Sparapani, Rodney <rspar...@mcw.edu>, Tomas Kalibera > <tomas.kalib...@gmail.com> > Subject: RE: [R-win] Difficulty installing R packages under Windows 11 / > Cygwin > ATTENTION: This email originated from a sender outside of MCW. Use caution > when clicking on links or opening attachments. > ________________________________ > Thanks for your thoughtful reply. Alas, I am using a company-provided > laptop. I would much prefer to run Linux as I do on my personal system but > that is not in the cards. I have plenty of access to Linux servers and of > course I can run things there but it’s a bit inconvenient. > > I thought about using WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux). I have some > experience with early versions of that [which leads me to avoid it 😊 ]. > > It is my fate to cope with legacy junk on projects that were late when I > joined. Ah well it’s a living. > > From: Sparapani, Rodney <rspar...@mcw.edu> > Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2023 9:28 AM > To: Robert Lerche <rler...@pacificbiosciences.com>; Tomas Kalibera > <tomas.kalib...@gmail.com>; ess-help (ess-help@r-project.org) > <ess-help@r-project.org> > Subject: Re: [R-win] Difficulty installing R packages under Windows 11 / > Cygwin > > > [EXTERNAL MESSAGE] Be mindful when clicking links or attachments > Hi Robert: > > There was a time when we supported ESS under Cygwin. > In other words, run elisp code assuming UNIX/Linux rather > than Windows even though Windows is the OS. However, > that was a long time ago: at least 10 years since I last tried it. > Cygwin has largely fallen out of fashion since you can now so > easily install Ubuntu on typical hardware: something that > has markedly improved since 2013. Therefore, I would not > expect Cygwin support to work out of the box since there > has been no recent testing. Also, Windows is not very > popular with R users since there is no forking support > for the parallel package. So switching to Linux is well > worth it. I used to run Windows inside VirtualBox when > I needed to do PC stuff like Office and iTunes > (before switching to macOS and never looking back ;o) > > -- > Rodney Sparapani, Associate Professor of Biostatistics, He/Him/His > Vice President, Wisconsin Chapter of the American Statistical Association > Institute for Health and Equity, Division of Biostatistics > Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee Campus > > From: ESS-bugs > <mailman-boun...@stat.ethz.ch<mailto:mailman-boun...@stat.ethz.ch>> on behalf > of Robert Lerche > <rler...@pacificbiosciences.com<mailto:rler...@pacificbiosciences.com>> > Date: Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 11:04 AM > To: Tomas Kalibera > <tomas.kalib...@gmail.com<mailto:tomas.kalib...@gmail.com>>, > ess-b...@r-project.org<mailto:ess-b...@r-project.org> > <ess-b...@r-project.org<mailto:ess-b...@r-project.org>> > Cc: ess-bugs-ow...@r-project.org<mailto:ess-bugs-ow...@r-project.org> > <ess-bugs-ow...@r-project.org<mailto:ess-bugs-ow...@r-project.org>>, > r-wind...@r-project.org<mailto:r-wind...@r-project.org> > <r-wind...@r-project.org<mailto:r-wind...@r-project.org>> > Subject: RE: [R-win] Difficulty installing R packages under Windows 11 / > Cygwin > ATTENTION: This email originated from a sender outside of MCW. Use caution > when clicking on links or opening attachments. > ________________________________ > > Let me try raw text: > > Tomas, my thanks for your prompt and useful response. I followed your > instructions and the Windows (MinGW/MSYS2) R and ggplot2 of course work > perfectly well launched from a Cygwin bash shell. Alas, ESS inside Cygwin > Emacs 29.1 doesn't quite work, launching an R process gives an error and > although R is running with stdin/stdout directed to the Emacs buffer there is > no tab completion. > > [background for the benefit of > ess-b...@r-project.org<mailto:ess-b...@r-project.org>] > > I recently received a new Windows 11 laptop from our IT department and I'm > trying to recreate my R environment (Cygwin/Emacs/ESS/R/ggplot2). Originally > I installed R 4.3.0 as packaged in Cygwin's setup.exe utility (in the Math > section). I was unable to add ggplot2. Tomas kindly pointed me to the > pre-built Windows binaries and as expected installing it and ggplot2 went > smoothly. > > I perused > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ess.r-project.org/index.php?Section=home__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!7kh3oo0D5fJMElRU8O3Xz6Hmc-Y0ufB8oSgC1uqX1yvGwlD9fv0aJdrxgnpo0X7E1tfYMI0XU5Y1iNnIKnpbUlLT$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/ess.r-project.org/index.php?Section=home__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!7kh3oo0D5fJMElRU8O3Xz6Hmc-Y0ufB8oSgC1uqX1yvGwlD9fv0aJdrxgnpo0X7E1tfYMI0XU5Y1iNnIKnpbUlLT$> > and pulled the latest ESS via git clone. Make worked but now when I try to > launch R inside Emacs [with (require 'ess-r-mode) in my .emacs file] an error > message appears: > > ess-r--init-error-handler: Wrong type argument: listp, "Caused by error: R > error during background ESS command base::tryCatch( > base::local({ > > base::source('/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/ess/etc/ESSR/R/.load.R', local=TRUE) > #define load.ESSR > .ess.ESSR.load('/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/ess/etc/ESSR/R') > }), > error = function(cnd) { > msg <- paste0('ESSR::ERROR \"', conditionMessage(cnd), '\"') > writeLines(msg) > } > ) > Error: cannot open the connection" > > Following this the buffer is live but tab completion fails. > > I attach the ess build log: > > G6WM1J3-89CBD7 ~ $ git clone > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/emacs-ess/ESS.git__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!7kh3oo0D5fJMElRU8O3Xz6Hmc-Y0ufB8oSgC1uqX1yvGwlD9fv0aJdrxgnpo0X7E1tfYMI0XU5Y1iNnIKr2dFRa2$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/emacs-ess/ESS.git__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!7kh3oo0D5fJMElRU8O3Xz6Hmc-Y0ufB8oSgC1uqX1yvGwlD9fv0aJdrxgnpo0X7E1tfYMI0XU5Y1iNnIKr2dFRa2$> > ess-latest > Cloning into 'ess-latest'... > remote: Enumerating objects: 44632, done. > remote: Counting objects: 100% (1252/1252), done. > remote: Compressing objects: 100% (424/424), done. > remote: Total 44632 (delta 904), reused 1152 (delta 827), pack-reused 43380 > Receiving objects: 100% (44632/44632), 27.28 MiB | 1.76 MiB/s, done. > Resolving deltas: 100% (33688/33688), done. > G6WM1J3-89CBD7 ~ $ cd ess-latest/ > G6WM1J3-89CBD7 ~/ess-latest $ make > ********************* VERSIONS ************************** > GNU Emacs 29.1 > ESS 18.10.3snapshot > ESSR 1.8 > ********************************************************* > make -C lisp all > make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/lisp' > which: no wget in (/cygdrive/c/Program > Files/R/R-4.3.2/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/cygdrive/c/Program Files > (x86)/Common > Files/Oracle/Java/javapath:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/WindowsPowerShell/v1.0:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/OpenSSH:/cygdrive/c/Program > Files/PuTTY:/cygdrive/c/Program Files > (x86)/GnuPG/bin:/cygdrive/c/Users/rlerche/AppData/Local/Microsoft/WindowsApps:/usr/lib/lapack) > which: no wget in (/cygdrive/c/Program > Files/R/R-4.3.2/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/cygdrive/c/Program Files > (x86)/Common > Files/Oracle/Java/javapath:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/WindowsPowerShell/v1.0:/cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/System32/OpenSSH:/cygdrive/c/Program > Files/PuTTY:/cygdrive/c/Program Files > (x86)/GnuPG/bin:/cygdrive/c/Users/rlerche/AppData/Local/Microsoft/WindowsApps:/usr/lib/lapack) > test -f ../etc/.IS.RELEASE || /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/curl > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://raw.githubusercontent.com/JuliaEditorSupport/julia-emacs/master/julia-mode.el__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!7kh3oo0D5fJMElRU8O3Xz6Hmc-Y0ufB8oSgC1uqX1yvGwlD9fv0aJdrxgnpo0X7E1tfYMI0XU5Y1iNnIKo9c7zFD$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/raw.githubusercontent.com/JuliaEditorSupport/julia-emacs/master/julia-mode.el__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!7kh3oo0D5fJMElRU8O3Xz6Hmc-Y0ufB8oSgC1uqX1yvGwlD9fv0aJdrxgnpo0X7E1tfYMI0XU5Y1iNnIKo9c7zFD$> > > julia-mode.el > % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current > Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed > 100 40906 100 40906 0 0 144k 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 146k > test -f ../etc/.IS.RELEASE || /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/system32/curl > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://raw.githubusercontent.com/JuliaEditorSupport/julia-emacs/master/julia-mode-latexsubs.el__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!7kh3oo0D5fJMElRU8O3Xz6Hmc-Y0ufB8oSgC1uqX1yvGwlD9fv0aJdrxgnpo0X7E1tfYMI0XU5Y1iNnIKmcNaJ6x$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/raw.githubusercontent.com/JuliaEditorSupport/julia-emacs/master/julia-mode-latexsubs.el__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!7kh3oo0D5fJMElRU8O3Xz6Hmc-Y0ufB8oSgC1uqX1yvGwlD9fv0aJdrxgnpo0X7E1tfYMI0XU5Y1iNnIKmcNaJ6x$> > > julia-mode-latexsubs.el > % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current > Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed > 100 442k 100 442k 0 0 1292k 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 1296k > Computing dependencies > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-custom.el > > In toplevel form: > ess-custom.el:324:2: Warning: custom-declare-variable `ess-startup-directory' > docstring has wrong usage of unescaped single quotes (use \= or different > quoting) > ess-custom.el:1401:2: Warning: custom-declare-variable `ess-post-run-hook' > docstring has wrong usage of unescaped single quotes (use \= or different > quoting) > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-utils.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-bugs-l.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-tracebug.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-inf.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-mode.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-bugs-d.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-help.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-s-lang.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-rd.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-r-syntax.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-roxy.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-r-completion.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-r-package.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-trns.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-r-xref.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-r-mode.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-gretl.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-jags-d.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-julia.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-r-flymake.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-rdired.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-sas-a.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-sas-l.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-sas-d.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-sp6-d.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > essd-els.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-toolbar.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > ess-site.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > julia-mode-latexsubs.el > emacs -batch -Q --directory . --directory ./obsolete -f batch-byte-compile > julia-mode.el > > Generating ess-autoloads.el > emacs -batch -Q --eval "(progn\ > (setq make-backup-files nil)\ > (setq generated-autoload-file (expand-file-name \"ess-autoloads.el\"))\ > (setq find-file-visit-truename t)\ > (update-directory-autoloads default-directory))" > Package autoload is deprecated > INFO Scraping files for ess-autoloads.el... > INFO Scraping files for ess-autoloads.el...done > make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/lisp' > make -C doc all > make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/doc' > making Info documentation... > makeinfo ess.texi > mv -f ess.info info/ > makeinfo --no-validate --plaintext --no-split -o - readme.texi \ > | perl -pe 'last if /^Concept Index/;' > ../README > makeinfo --no-validate --plaintext --no-split -o - announc.texi \ > | perl -pe 'last if /^Concept Index/;' > ../ANNOUNCE > makeinfo --no-validate --plaintext --no-split -o - news.texi > ../NEWS > makeinfo --no-validate --plaintext --no-split -o - onews.texi > ../ONEWS > make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/doc' > make -C etc all > make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/etc' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for 'all'. > make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/etc' > cd lisp; make ess-autoloads.el > make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/lisp' > make[1]: 'ess-autoloads.el' is up to date. > make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/lisp' > G6WM1J3-89CBD7 ~/ess-latest $ make install > ********************* VERSIONS ************************** > GNU Emacs 29.1 > ESS 18.10.3snapshot > ESSR 1.8 > ********************************************************* > make -C lisp all > make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/lisp' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for 'all'. > make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/lisp' > make -C doc all > make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/doc' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for 'all'. > make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/doc' > make -C etc all > make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/etc' > make[1]: Nothing to be done for 'all'. > make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/etc' > cd lisp; make ess-autoloads.el > make[1]: Entering directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/lisp' > make[1]: 'ess-autoloads.el' is up to date. > make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/rlerche/ess-latest/lisp' > mkdir -p /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/ess > cp -p -R ./* /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/ess/ > G6WM1J3-89CBD7 ~/ess-latest $ exit > > -----Original Message----- > From: ESS-bugs > <ess-bugs-boun...@r-project.org<mailto:ess-bugs-boun...@r-project.org>> On > Behalf Of ess-bugs-ow...@r-project.org<mailto:ess-bugs-ow...@r-project.org> > Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2023 8:13 AM > To: Robert Lerche > <rler...@pacificbiosciences.com<mailto:rler...@pacificbiosciences.com>> > Subject: RE: [R-win] Difficulty installing R packages under Windows 11 / > Cygwin > > [EXTERNAL MESSAGE] Be mindful when 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