Hi Vincent:

I definitely appreciate all of the care that you put into your distro.
There was a time when I built emacs from scratch on my laptop
(carbon emacs on Mac OS X).  However, those days are long gone.
Except for Linux, it is far more difficult to build from source now.
Your distro and homebrew binaries are the only way that I have
found to get a dependable emacs application on macOS.  And your
distro is much nicer than homebrew.  If you would like some help,
then please let me know.  Just recently, we have started looking for
a new web host.  Would you like to have ESS join you (not joking)?
But, all good things must come to an end. If so, then you have set
a very high standard to follow.  Thanks for all of your hard work
over the years!

--
Rodney Sparapani, Associate Professor of Biostatistics, He/Him
President, Wisconsin Chapter of the American Statistical Association
Division of Biostatistics, Data Science Institute
Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee Campus


From: Vincent Goulet <vincent.gou...@mac.com>
Date: Tuesday, January 28, 2025 at 2:01 PM
To: Sparapani, Rodney <rspar...@mcw.edu>
Cc: ess-help (ess-help@r-project.org) <ess-help@r-project.org>
Subject: Re: [ESS] ESS 25.01.0 released on ELPA
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Hi Rodney and all,

As I was rolling up my sleeves to prepare an update of my distributions to 
include the newest ESS, I learned that AUCTeX, now in the 14.x series, is no 
longer distributed as a standalone tarball. Users should now install it using 
the Emacs package system.

I was briefly back at the question I asked here a few months ago: is it time to 
retire my distributions since most additions can now be installed using 
package-install? At the time, some people showed continued interest for an 
out-of-the-box distribution. I'm probably one of them. Furthermore, I offer 
some customizations and extensions (Hunspell and dictionaries, for example) not 
as readily available elsewhere.

After some fiddling, I found a way to reconcile my distributions and the Emacs 
package system: install packages in a sysadmin way inside the Emacs tree and 
ship this. When users install the distribution, the package system is already 
initialized (therefore users should *not* include (package-initialize) in their 
init file). The nice thing for the maintainer: building the distributions is 
now much simpler and faster.

I'm testing this a little before I release updates, but so far, so good!

Cheers,

v.

> Le 11 janv. 2025 à 13:42, Sparapani, Rodney via ESS-help 
> <ess-help@r-project.org> a écrit :
>
> Hi Gang:
>
> ESS-core is pleased to announce that our latest annual release installment
> is now available on ELPA.  We have a few bug-fixes and new features.
>
> The biggest change is in philosophy as described in the first bullet below�
>
> Changes and New Features in 25.01.0:
>
>  *   polymode: In our transition from literate libraries (such as noweb 
> documented below with respect to 19.04), we now recommend the polymode 
> packages as a more suitable replacement. Furthermore, we suggest the related 
> polymodes including poly-noweb, poly-markdown and poly-R (installed in that 
> order). The package polymode itself, as well as the polymodes packages, are 
> all on MELPA rather than ELPA. Therefore, you need to add MELPA to the list 
> of installation archives as follows. �(add-to-list 'package-archives 
> '("melpa-stable" . 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://stable.melpa.org/packages/__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!4HzMkG1Q7Yv1pBvBk8_9Kf44HHaJCSW3dPhSAGsEqMJHWi0ijyPnFGy82k2_wmhqnYHQrHIvHVR8rdc6nljSkHk$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/stable.melpa.org/packages/__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!4HzMkG1Q7Yv1pBvBk8_9Kf44HHaJCSW3dPhSAGsEqMJHWi0ijyPnFGy82k2_wmhqnYHQrHIvHVR8rdc6nljSkHk$>
>  ))� for M-x package-install
>  *   ESS[R]: The shorthand notation for lambda functions and the question 
> mark are now fontified as keywords. Contributed by Maxime Pettinger.
>  *   ESS[SAS]: Developed new comprehensive lists of PROCs and functions for 
> syntax highlighting. See etc/proc.sas and etc/func.sas.
>
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> --
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> President, Wisconsin Chapter of the American Statistical Association
> Division of Biostatistics, Data Science Institute
> Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee Campus
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