Have you noticed that it is not rare that people use MS Word document as kind of container? They create image gallery in it, embed sounds, videos just to be able to have comments aroud them, etc. It looks so natural to them to bind
things together in that way.

I see nothing wrong about doing that, however, I do not think that the tool they are using for the purpose is the most appropriate one. But hey, what they
should use?

Yes -- I've noticed this as well. I often get emails from clients that contain just a single image, perhaps a screenshot, but it's embedded in a Word document. I think it's simply a matter of familiarity for people: behind an email client, a web browser and various desk utilities (calculator, music player, etc), what is the single piece of software that most users in a corporate environment have regular exposure to? Word. I'm not sure it seems entirely natural for them to use Word, but what else are they going to use (as Stefan asks above)?

In my experience, many people do use Word in the way that I might use a page-layout program, like Quark, InDesign, or Scribus. I've even been describing Etoile to other designers I know using exactly these comparisons: and they understand it and see merit in it. Thus, it would be a good idea to model the interface on a program such as this, if we intend to have a generic document format controlled by the workspace rather than by a single app.


Another, related idea that I've been playing with is what if we think of each document as a white board, rather than a page that will be printed. Rather than use the Word/page-layout model exclusively, what if we think about and talk about the Etoile interface in more collaboration-focused terms? I think the print-centric model of Word and page-layout are a bit outdated: I'm sure many of the Word documents which I receive from clients never even touch a printer. Many of them do, however, end up getting marked up, passed around, remarked and versioned -- exactly the type of behavior we seem to be approaching on in our discussions. What I guess this really comes down to, is we should facilitate sharing at the workspace/document level, and make a truly collaborative environment part of the heart of what Etoile is.


J.


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