David Chisnall wrote:
We don't want people distributing books / PDFs of our documentation and putting the copyright notice in the documentation for the documentation (what would that even be? 'To read this book, place in front of eyes and use brain to translate symbols into concepts?') We want them to place it in wherever is appropriate for copyright notices, typically the inside cover.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this.

I think the 3rd clause may not be a good idea (which is why the FreeBSD folks pulled it out), as people may want to publish the documentation in dead-tree form, and they would have to ask us if they can put 'Etoile Project' on the 'Etoile Project Documentation'... I'm not sure what else they would call it and it could be a logistic hassle if they do need to get in contact with us. Thoughts?

I think the reason they removed this is that it doesn't necessarily make sense. How can you make a product derived from (in the legal sense of a derived work) documentation?

A person can take the documentation and make changes/add content. We do not want people to use our name to *endorse* their changes.

A book would count, for example. Do we want the Étoilé Project name used to endorse the selling of books about Étoilé? Actually, we probably don't, unless we can read them and agree that they meet a certain standard of quality. We do, however, want it to be able to use the name Étoilé.

For example, someone writing a book 'Étoilé Uncovered!' would be fine, but having them say 'The official reference to the Étoilé environment' would not.

I don't think the license would apply to the name Étoilé. It would only apply to the names of the individuals who wrote the documentation.

If someone writes a book called 'Étoilé Uncovered!' it is *their book* and *not* a derivative of someone else's documentation.

On the other hand if someone wants to publish our documents with some changes/additions they *need* to ask our permission to use our name to endorse it.

However if they want to publish our documentation *without* any changes/additions the clause does not apply to them and therefore they can use our name to endorse it.

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